Hello, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to the Frank. Their podcast. This is the very fast episode have been looking forward to I have this, um on and I'm very happy to have Selina Kasa, my very fast guest. Very exciting possum. And we will be covering some really interesting conversations. So, Sally, tell us about a bit about yourself.

Uh, hi, everyone. I am really happy to be here. I am a entrepreneur. I am a Trina or for IX, amongst other things. I am an average d I wire. I love it and load Lovett can't get enough of it. Um, yeah, that's a bit about me. The important bits for this composition anyway.

So just to bring things to perspective, I think the most appropriate thing I think I should be asking you is How exactly are you trying to protect yourself from? They're Corona virus.

Well, let's start with the basics. Wash my hands, wash my hands, wash my hands. Also, a lot of people don't know you confined really good. Um, I want to call them recipes, but that's not the word to make your own hand sanitizer. So if you've been run getting to the story and you're finding that they run out or you don't have the money to buy the store bought ones. You know, premium brands

out there because the prices are really Candace skyrocketed.

Yeah, some of them are skyrocketed. Other people don't know which ones of the reliable ones. Which ones are good and quality stuff? Well, I've made my own. So

how exactly do you do that? You can

do? Shall we be? So you just go to any pharmacy and ask for the rubbing alcohol in Kenya? Call it rubbing alcohol. Um, wherever else it is different names, but it's the kind that's used for, um, surgeries and things like that, or to clean a wound. So make sure it is above 70% alcohol. If it is 90 or more than 90. Even better, So get that comes in a clear variety, sometimes purple. But don't be too concerned about the color as long as it's got enough alcohol content in it. So that's 12 You can get some glittery and three.

You may or may not want to get some aloe vera gel, so the ratio of mixing is saying one part glittering or aloe vera to two parts. Uh, rubbing alcohol makes it, makes it very well, and you can start in a tiny container. But its shelf life isn't very long because it doesn't have all the preservatives and stabilizes that the professional made ones have, but it will still do the job. So I guess you don't have some. You can make your own,

so these ingredients are locally available

quite locally available. They're not expensive, say rubbing alcohol take won't cost you more than what $3? $5? It goes more than that. Well, there is something important in that thing, but usually it'll cost about that much. Um, Oliver jail or glittering about the same amount depend, depending on how much you're buying. So yeah, it's better. You make it easy and cheap,

and I think it's also important to reiterate the fact that Erin's being asked to stay at home. If you can try as much as possible to just, uh, isolate yourself because, um, that the disease is spreading really fast. So many countries are struggling with this, and I think the most important thing for everyone to do right now is to do all you can to stay safe and make sure that you don't, in fact, other people you don't. You know, put yourself at risk. Just stay safe and take very good care of yourself. NFL Luminal Starting this this podcast. I had this idea, but a couple of months ago had a range of topics that I wanted to cover. However,

the way things have turned out, I think it would only be prudent for me to cover something that is very relevant to everyone right now. So, for example, it was only, I think yesterday that all schools and, uh, compasses are close. Didn't in Kenya and many other countries. Um, And I think one of the biggest questions or challenges that most people will be asking themselves is what now happens to the school school going Children who now have to stay at home with their parents or the guardians and relatives. Um, the prediction and, uh, that the news that we keep getting is that this thing is going to be with us for quite a while. Not just a couple of weeks might stretch on two months,

so I think it would be important for us to figure out. Um, at this stage, what are we going to do with, you know, our future generation of young people? Pupils from elementary school students in high schools and students are encompasses. And the reason I brought you on to cover this is because the topic that I want us to start with, particularly for this discussion, is something that is very close to you. Something you've gone through. Um, you were brought up in that kind of, you know, system and, uh, you pretty MME familiar with the experience. And I feel like you can share some of it with the audience. And basically it's on homeschooling. Yeah,

so about home schooling. Um, so I've gone through all three major systems of education in Kenya. So there's public school, private school and international schools which have a rest and based curriculum. So I just see a c a c e. That anything. So for a time, I did go through some American based system called a C. It was really interesting, is really different from what's the canyon system did. And it encouraged some things that I think the canyon system should stress more and, you know, think about more, for instance, as opposed to just cramming the rules and, um,

how you speak English in practice it in that system, we had to actually read for the teacher. It was part of the exam, but it wasn't such an intimidating thing. You do it at your own pace. It's really broken down into nice consumable chunks for you. As a student, it was really, really great. That's what I think. And it wasn't cramming too much information into one child that later on down the line half the information they're not going to use anyway. You just find that you discard it. It's just we said space in your head because you're not taking it's not taking universe, you're not taking it anywhere. It was just really stressful in the canyon system, especially the public school system and in the other system that a C E system,

the classroom sizes, was smaller. It was really, really great because the teachers I'm able to give me and the other we were about five other students. Enough time, no enough individual attention. The just mints came over you because classes to large, they can't do this. They don't have enough time for you or see me after class because I'll give you five minutes, then maybe it was there. Then they explaining to the best of their abilities in nice, manageable small chunks. It was really great. Then it wasn't really common because that was what about 15 years ago. It was a really long time ago. There weren't a lot of us,

and we all knew each other from a setting background to the church background then, And it was really challenging at that time to socialize with other kids because kids in school or off school going age need to socialize, to learn some social skills too loud, cooperate to work together. You want some basic stuff like sharing. It's important. And if your kid alone, you may not pick up that skill early enough. So then we will only fight because of that, however, in the past year, so I've seen a lot of news articles, and it's really encouraging to see that parents have embraced this sort off education system. So currently it is. I just cc you can get so many articles, so much course content for your kids of different levels,

different ages. It's all out there for you to find this paidcontent, This free content, anything you need to help you educate your kids and instill in them the values that you think are important and, you know, give them that time they needed, he was apparent. This is how we do it. And they're few organizations in Kenya right now that are doing it. They're not all that recognized, and they're not all that known. But since now, people have to stay home with their kids, and some of the kids are in important years. So in Kenya, there is an eighth graders and eight exam,

really big thing. And the parents really want their kids to do well, this is the Examiner determines which which high schools their kids go to. So parents really, really always on their kids to do well. The next exam is in. People trust your 12th grade. For us, it is all levels. Yeah, all levels. It is fourth form. Um, and those two exams really, really important. The 2nd 1 determines the universities that they can get in. And for most parents, now that the kids are home, they're really worried about what they can do about that yet this homeschooling and most will have either haven't heard of it or think it is for reach posh white people somewhere out

in the world. Well, actually, I wanted to take you back a little bit because you see that assumption off. You know, home schooling is just for the select few. It's something that not many people okay, something that many people kind of unformed, too, because they don't understand exactly what it is. So maybe could you define what exactly is home schooling house? It's structured. Who's the tea ties of the parent? Is it like, you know, a struck gent system whereby students are pupils from particular neighborhood that brought together to land? Okay,

you know, around home, and you know it has a particular program, which is very different from normal schooling. How exactly define homeschooling and what would be the major difference between home schooling and conventional schools?

Okay, so homeschooling is done at a central location, obviously. Okay, it's not so obvious to everyone, but it's done at a central location. So, for instance, let's say the kids meet at the teacher's home, and there's a small number of kids it's not. A lot of kids see most of the time, less than 10 kids, and they don't all have to be of the same age. That can be different age groups. Now. The thing with home schooling is that the small class sizes enabled the teacher to give each student enough attention, as you mentioned earlier.

And also, um, it is not as strict, not as rigid as 844 system that is akin in regular system. So the the workbooks are easier there simpler. I'm nothing that they're not all that informative. They are. It's just in manageable chunks, right? Remember when we were in school, we would have to cram all this information and do this giant test at the end of the term. And then at the end of the year, there's an even bigger test,

right? So, ideally, big, the main key, different shaped eyes, the content that students are fed, which is what differentiates it from, yes,

normal schooling. Yes, the type of the content is put out, and it's done the money double chance I'm talking about. It's like when you finish a chapter that is, you get the exam in the end of that chapter. You want to come and meet again at the end of the here where there's this giant examined. You have to be cramming hours for it

like normal schools have about three times, and they have a test at the end of each time. So which is basically putting together all the information that the students have been landing for? The Tom put it into, you know, test every subject, and then the same thing goes on until then. So the key difference here is that the students take up the information or content chapter so they don't consume the entire chunk of information at a good. It's structured in chapters. And then as they proceeded every chapter, they progress to another next stage.

So no, um, that the teacher, the tutor, whatever you choose to call them doesn't have to be the parent. So, like for Britons or Americans, they can afford to have a point of the teacher because a lot of the friends choose to be stared Tom parents because the cost of a nanny in Suffolk that is really expensive. So as a stair to a parent, some of them it is very well curated work, so you don't have to put in too much work to be a tutor for your kid. It is. The structures are very easy for you as an adult to follow. And since you've been through some of this stuff, especially the simpler, lower level stuff, it is easy for you to get the kid through it.

But it gets to a point. If you feel that your child needs more specialized, you know, tutoring or training. There are teachers that you can hire, so you take your kid to them and given the school day, depending on the system used to use the British system or the American system, the end of the day varies. Also the length of the school year, not length three. But the times of the school year. The months that school is on the goods, they've iron, right? So for us we have three months break three months, break through months break away.

But for British system could be different for American system. The whole three month chunk at once summer, right? We don't have someone, but they do. But you for using American system here, you have to use that too s so This is the big difference. Just the timing in the year, how the format is and they really don't put in a lot off extra stuff in again a system. Let me call it extra stuff. But you know those things that you would sit down and ask yourself after you've bean classic form to think where maybe to take trigonometry in real life you you all the time has been thinking about a future career. Let's say you wanted to be a lawyer, right? And you're sitting down and thinking, Oh my goodness, where maybe stick trigonometry And as you look at it,

it's a good thing to have. But I don't think it should be forced on you. Some of this subject, especially in high school, they were forced on us.

But why do you think they existed in the fast police?

I think the people who made that system veers. Actually, it was decades of it was first done in the seventies. Yeah, that's when it was just abruptly brought in people. It was dropped in weather than President ate before system. Yes, because before that it used to be 747246 And there's so many numbers. But still, if you go to a point and you decided at this point, okay, education for me back in book learning that is is not for me. I can go into blue collar jobs and do my thing there if that is your thing over it. If that was your thing, then there weren't any programs. But now there are. You could have a system or pig subjects that are more geared towards what you want to do later on in life.

And I think it encourages kids to think about that more seriously. Then this age before way drummed, You have to do physics and geography and thinking, but I don't like them. I don't do well in them. I don't enjoy them, but you have to do them anyway.

But now they're really till The matter is that a lot off students of peoples in the country, for example, are already in that system on duh. Considering the situation that we all facing a TTE the moment, they will still have to continue that system. I don't think that you know them being at home would, uh, generally make them switch entirely to a completely different system on maybe to help me understand the listeners. What's the possibility off using the concept off home schooling? Um, because, look, the reality of the matter is that a lot off people in the homes right now are looking at weasel getting the students back to school, not in the physical classrooms, but to land. So do you think that enforcing a switch from conventional systems that they're working with the moment to Maybe, you know, the home schooling system is something that would be feasible? Or it might confuse the students at some point?

Oh, no, it's starting to confuse them. I don't think it'll confuse them that much because I think students of really adaptable one two it's not forcing people to change or a doctor a system that is so strange and stuff. No, it's more about figuring out what you can do right now to help your kid get through the certain Steve. See if grade and 12th grade right? They need to get those, um, marks. You need to get a set, a certain standard to get onto the next year. So what are you going to do as a parent to help you get there. These e learning mostly actually, quite a few people that I had spoken to before this outbreak. They thought that Elena was for those people Waas so far away from civilization who can't come to class every day. So they have to do it.

And it was for uni students doesn't for regular people. It was for someone far away who is doing higher learning someone across the ocean who is doing higher learning, right? How much do attend, say, Yale or USC or halfway right end up can't go there physically, but even doing the learning. But now the reality of the matter is some of these Asian countries had it right the first time way before this virus came along because they have been doing learning or only learning for years, mostly to teach English and stuff like that. But they've been doing it and it's been working Amazing. So they are way ahead of the curve. And for us, I think we should

adapt. Adopting is a solution. Yes, I agree. However, the reality that we're facing at the moment is that we may not have the right infrastructure to adopt. I'm looking at a family that is living in a police where you know electricity is a problem. Internet access and, you know, devices. Infrastructure is not as commonplace as maybe even a people lose studying in another near a lake Nairobi. What's the adoption strategy? Because you can't just switch overnight or wish these things to happen immediately. Is there only that you know they can organize themselves within that communities too, you know, introduce a new system that could work for them while this crisis is being worked on.

Well, um, it would be great to think that they could fundraise in the community and the money that would have gone into school fees can go into setting up local infrastructure to say, bring Safaricom Internet toe a small area right? But that would defeat the purpose off self quarantine. Unfortunately, so it has to be done individually on DDE. That does really quite unfortunate, especially considering the month amounts being muted and going into hare brained scheme. But schemes with politicians and those canyons we know hare brained schemes. You've seen all of them in the various forms, but unfortunately we don't have the power to push them as much as you would like to. Right now, they are going to go ahead and boot does and loot as much as they want. And that money would have gone into building bridges building infrastructure for schools. Because by now, apparently every child is supposed to be having their own laptop. Remember those promises? So if they had actually done this, we would have bean boy ahead of the

curve. I know that particularly.

So, unfortunately, that is what we would have liked to see that they kept their promises. And Kenya, Right now, this wouldn't be such a horrifying, scary thing for parents. The students to

that might sound like we're trying to focus more online learning as opposed to homeschooling, which I think is a different concept.

Slightly, however they can, you know, they can be put together. You can home school online. Okay, As in the home, schooling is yes, about learning from home one, but it can be done for people who can't reach physically. Okay, so I don't see why they can't be combined. Just need the curriculum you need. You're willing, student, and yes, you can. You can make it work.

How would you assess the modifications of the teachers Would be participating in the home schooling, considering that in this current environment with a reality that we're facing, everyone is staying at home so most or the two does that we expect her. Probably the parents, right? Ran off. And, you know, assuming in a neighbor, I mean in a household where one of the parents is is working on that only staying at home. Do you think they would be well equipped in good time to be able to deliver the course is to their Children at home? Or is it possible to structure the cause is in a way, in a way that you know, is easier for even the teachers, too, to die just before they can

go to shade. So I mentioned this earlier. It is possible for you, for the tutors to have a manageable, well, easy and it easily understood curriculum for them to, because it's important. You can't explain something to your child that you don't understand yourself. So there are teachers notes for most of these courses, teachers notes. If the teacher is a qualified person, they already know how to go about. They have studied their material. They know how to do it. If you're a parent, can't afford to take your kid. But you can afford to get the courses because there's some places you can get them for free,

like Khan Academy that so many of their just Google and you will find them. So many free courses, great courses in death causes for all ages and there that right and become Muslim come with teachers notes or a marking scheme for you, too, you know, work along with your child. You just need a few minutes to prepare. And you're good. No. These companies that I talked about earlier about that I, um, dealing with home schooling and in Kenya rates now they do match their teachers. They just don't let anybody in, and most of them require TSC number. TSC number is a teacher's service commission. It's for registered teachers.

It proves that you have gone through all the tests. You have all the qualifications academically, and you can teach Children, so whatever level it is, you get your certificate. Once it's approved, you can start teaching. So there is writing that goes and just just because you say you're a good teacher, you're good with kids. Doesn't mean that you are. You have to show qualifications

for it. Okay, having gone through the home schooling, you know, a dance it How do you think it impacted you? Upbringing? If you probably compare yourself and the people who came to direct with later on who? Why in public schools are, you know, going through the conventional system of education?

Okay, so I think it's really improved my confidence in speaking in whatever I'm doing a dude with confidence. Because first of all, you're in a small class. You don't have a group or click to work with or something like that. You are working on this thing. Whichever subject it is, whichever assignment it is, you were doing it yourself how you understand it. And when you don't understand, you had to pluck up the courage to go and ask the teacher. So I don't get this. Please explain it to me once or twice or four times. You had to ask. So right now I'm comfortable in those things I'm comfortable with asking. Uncomfortable with standing up for myself, uncomfortable with reading and speaking out in public because that was actually one of the things we were tested in,

how to speak in room, how to project enough in a room. It was taught to us, and I think that was a wonderful skill. And when I got to because I was in the Russian style school, the system for a bit and then I went back into public school to finish so they can get in tow has come with less difficulty. Um, and when I went back, I was surprised because no one really spoke in class much except to answer a question. So it was a direct answer to a question. Very few people have the guts to lift their hand and ask a question, especially if there was a temperamental teacher. And believe me, there are enough of those in the public

schools so that a confidence problem,

yes, because the teachers they beat it out of you. They want absolute and total submission and quietness, and the ideal child is seen not heard. It's a learning environment. You were not left to express everything about yourself in a productive and constructive rate, and the only place that I found people who would talk and you know I'll give themselves are properly and, you know, express themselves was in debate club and debate wasn't for the shy people. So you'd find that the people who are willing enough to speak and to stand up and debate this things at the drop of a hat They wanted the best oranges, the best orators and was what best grandma. And, you know, they could build all these nice, big sentences. You're too shy to do it. They were like, That's not for me. It was It was peculiar to me. Uh huh. So I think that's one thing it really

taught me in my assessment, Um, and pretty much assessment from a lot of experts that that Colonel Elias is going to change a lot about the society that we live in today and some of the things that were going to adopt? Well, not just to be around for a couple of months, while the situation still ensues, but will eventually be adopted, you know, for long time. Do you think that if homeschooling becomes one of those concepts that parents take up for their Children, do you think it might disrupt conventional schooling. If it does become adopted a Z common system for educating a student.

I think it's already disrupted it partially not as massively as some people would have liked, but it's already disrupted. Enough was. Currently there's a court. The court issue,

yeah, is a cold case.

Yeah, and the The Homeschooling Association is trying to get it legalized because it's not mentioned in the laws of Kenya. It is no mentioned, but it is curiously illegal. And last year there was a parent who was arrested because of home schooling his kids, even though he had done a marvelous job. But it was still arrested because apparently kids need to be taken to a physical brick and mortar school. It doesn't matter whether they are teaching the values you want instilled in your kids. It doesn't matter whether they are giving them enough attention or they're helping your Children grow. You just have to take them to a brick and mortar school, and I think that it's counterproductive, really, because the people who would like to have the kids in really good schools learning certain things. But they can't see the financial constraints location in availability of that curriculum in the area, so I don't see why doing it yourself should be a crime anyway. They this people in the courts, the homeschooling association,

they're really trying to get it legalized. And I think it's a wonderful thing, and the fact that they're being fought so hard proves that the traditional schools they're not so comfortable with this idea. And it's not just traditional schools. It's as a people. We think that to the only place you can take your kids is a place where they have to dress alike, stand at attention in parade and, you know, reflected about things do the whole day.

Do you think the government has a legitimate concern for not legalizing homeschooling? Maybe because, you know, this is socialization. Off the students, every person comes from a different background, and if that heart to socialize in a particular way, the moment they get an opportunity to meet other PS, the make exhibit Oh, are you probably have a lot of clashes because the parents might be very strict in instilling in them their values, which might be quite contrasting with other people from different places. And I think part of The reason we have this uniformity in public and private schools is because we want people to grow up in a suddenly a sudden culture. Do you think that could be a legitimate concern from the government for not legalizing homeschooling

in but your pertains to, um, clashing? Yeah,

People who love is flash people have one is clashed.

People are clashing right now puzzle personality because of differences and ideology, and it's always going to happen. So I don't think there's a legitimate concern. Weight comes to kids clashing. It is part off the growing process, understanding other people, knowing that your ideas are not a fact, they're not the standard. People will disagree with you better. Your arguments, you know, learn to share, learn what is acceptable for you, what is acceptable and right, and you know where you need to draw the line. Wait, get stop until you know what I can't put up with this.

But right comes to concerns. I think if they legalized it, it would be easier to control all the different systems that are out there because because there's no standard parents can teach their kids which ever system, they want some of them are not equipped well enough. Some of them don't have the best resources so that parents who are on this hand given the kids some of the best paid for education, some some tree and they are well capable to do it right, or they have good enough tutors to do it and is enough information for them in their circles. On other hand, these parents who want to do it, who have already started doing it without the best resource is information or, you know, support because they do need support. They need a system where the kids don't learn in isolation, where the kids socialize with other kids. So if they legalized it, it would be easy to standardize the whole plane level,

the whole playing field, and also easier for this kids to get into the regular public high schools if they want to. If they want to get into the regular local but universities, they can do so, too, because it's quite challenging for them when they don't have the regular greed from public or private school. That's operates is in the canyon system

chief able to legalize it, they can regulated to ensure some sort of it. Basic principles are covered because, you know, I'm assuming someone coming from anti boxes from kind of society to, uh, treats, you know, quite the clash.

Good. It's really good, because as a society, we believe in vaccinating. No, really, we believe it is important and you bring in someone who is telling other parents. You know, it's not so important. Just rub some essential oils and you know they're behind.

Ideally, those are some of the

concerns. That is a concern. That is a real concern. However, if it is standardized and you want to get your kid, you know, cooperating and learning and meeting with the other Children from the home schooling, whichever homeschooling association you're in, they think there'd be some requirements to get in to. You want them in. That is all great. You can meet all this list of requirements that is great for them in the canyon public system. You may want you to get into, say, fifth grade. They won't just be allowed in. Then you take a test to figure out.

Do they really belong in fifth grade? Yeah. So I don't see why they shouldn't be similar regulations in home schooling. The government shouldn't be able to change that system because that system is where the parents are primarily there. But if they can help regulate it, you know, to start return the staff and, you know, put some basic safety regulations. Even though from what I've seen, this associations are self regulating amazingly well. Okay, that is good. But mostly just make it legal and easier to disperse this information about home schooling. Two a wider audience. Yeah.

So, um, one of the key concerns that maybe, well, part off the discussion could be, um, the transition from regular schooling to homeschooling might not work for everyone Might not work for every student coming from our psychological judo background. Do you think this is something that can be adopted for all Children are you know, because some students maybe interact better with the others? Others may not be very comfortable being taught by their parents because of some sort of friction. Um, that could be quite a lot of reasons for not making it possible to get this going for everyone. What would be the solution for for those who are not able to get this going.

That's the beauty about having three systems is a private school system. There's a public school system, and then there's the Western school system, right? So if homeschooling in the Western School present system don't work for you or you notice that child isn't thriving, that you can switch them. Learning isn't so rigid that a child can't adopt. You can always adopt. Listen, when you moved from one bridge to the next, the content was different. The teacher was different. The setting was different because it's a new classroom, probably new tools for you to use. Learning is adaptable. It is not something so scary that kids can't do it. Give them more flexible than you think,

and I'm not going to see that they're blank slates. But they can take amazingly well to new situations people as long as they're comfortable. I don't see why they shouldn't be able to adapt to the Western systems American system, British or from British to Kenyon, although that rarely happens. But still it is very possible.

So this is something you didn't does yes, wholeheartedly for for parents going for everywhere, since you know we are going to be stuck at home for the infant foreseeable future. We need to find a way to get a Children, too. Get back

to school and I loved me. I don't see the problem in exposing your child to a different worldview in regards to education, because it's a different world view. They're not used to it. However, I don't see how that could have their chances with anything information acquiring through any means as long as it's legal. Logical. You know, I do not see how it comes your child. If anything, it just gives them our white of you off. What's going on out there that this isn't the only way to do things? Memories to skin a cut? Sorry, what do you think

would be the biggest challenge to parent to planning to take this up? A czar new method of educating their Children going forward.

So I think the first thing would be Internet connectivity, because that's very important. Kenya is one off the leading countries in Africa. Internet connectivity were really high up there, but a lot of parents don't realize just how versatile it is. It's not just for you to Facebook and Google ing that you can learn entire courses onto this thing, right? So them getting to use it properly, ensuring their kids how to use it. That's one thing. I think in most cases, it's the kids will be sharing their parents ville. Yeah, sure. So it's easier for the kids to adopt. Then you think this generation of kids are more ticks every then we were they even their more advanced with technology at a younger age, younger and younger and younger.

And that's how it's going to keep going. So parents should be shouldn't be too afraid of it as long as you have parental controls and you can regulate what? Where your kid is going online with the way Parents Net Nanny is your friend install, it looks met Money Next 90 up. Sorry, So Net Nanny is a service that lets you monitor and curb the areas where your child can go on the Internet. So unless you have a family, laptop or tablet or something where they will be doing their learning, we need stole your net. Nanny. It makes sure that, um, offensive ads and things that you wouldn't want to child exposed to. You know those racy aside sides of the Internet and those kind of ads. They don't appear anywhere, and your child can't access them,

either. Some of them also offer the function off, letting you see where kid has been. If they delete, say, the Internet history and you have no idea where to get it from, you know, 90 some of them can do that. So it's an added advantage you can really monitor. Watcher Child is doing online, and if they're doing something you do not approve off. Here is where sharing your values and in stealing the good quality values you think about to your child. So, sure it's not something the Internet isn't something to be scared off. Something to be embraced. The future is going there.

Sure, so, um, Technologies and Nebula. For a lot of these things, however, the truth of the matter is, it's not evenly distributed. Which would you think would be some of the ways off improvising for people who are living in far flung areas may not be able to have access to technology but still would want to keep things going. Despite that limitation,

Well, that's a toughie. If they can access the Internet. Um, presently personally, you know that we have several Internet for Raiders in Kenya who are quite versatile. If that is a problem, that could be a toughie. Because getting this information outside of the Internets stuff.

So the only solution fast us to be Internet connection?

Yes, electricity and Internet connectivity. After that, you can do the rest

trust. So finally, do you have anything else you'd like to add to the discussion?

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Awesome. Thank you very much. I think I'm going to put a link to the event, Uh, the show and definitely going to have you on for more discussions around different topics. Really appreciate. And, uh, thank you. Looking forward for the next show.