I'll say it. What was that bro? What the hold on, that was the best performance I've ever seen. It was like this is what I felt like I went there and I was like this is amazing. I love all the performance. But why did you have to beat that child at the end?

How long has it been since we've done a podcast? Six days? I don't think so. Oh,

Michael,

Michael

a long time. It's been,

it's been a while. Can I ask you something? Do you think we're equipped to do a podcast?

Are you kidding me right now? No, no. Okay. We used to do shows like this all the time. 1st 152 100 shows were pretty much

all like this. Yeah.

This kid right here gone, he's toast, toast a waterlogged piece of wood, petrified wood floating, floating down the river.

Are

you gonna make it through the show? Yeah, no, I'm here. I'm here,

I'm here,

I'm here. But the lights, you know like, like the lights are on but nobody's home. I'm here. I don't know how you guys do this, This is ridiculous. I've been practicing, I've been practicing drinking with the boys, uh

practicing drinking. I like, I like how you said that I'm practicing, I practiced

drinking to know you're

a professional, you're

like in the olympic training. Like you're up there, I can't hang dude, I can't like I realized like yesterday, like there was there was some ship going down and I was like, I should probably be alert and aware of what's going on right now. But I was like, let's go deeper just getting more fun with you guys and I realized that you guys would stay the same like when it comes to like talking and like no slurring and I'm just like, okay, maybe I should like back, do your, does your lips go numb

at a certain point? Yeah. And dry as well. My girlfriend told me I looked like a crackhead at about two a.m. She goes, your lips are crusty, your face is dry your translucent Logan. You look like a crack. You look like mike. You still look

like Anyways,

welcome back to impulsive, the number one podcast in the world. It's true. Mike used to be a drug addict, but he wrote a book about his recovery and it's very inspiring. It's called The Fifth Vital. You should check it out. We are.

Thanks man.

I've said this before. We're at the tail

end

of a long, long Arduous bender that started in Mykonos and ended here in London were at True Majority Studio. Thank you again to True Majority for allowing us to use your set. This is the nicest set we've ever been on and one day maybe we'll upgrade are set to emulate what you've built here, but it's been, it's been a long vacation. We needed a Euro trip, right? It's the end of the summer and we've been working hard, we've been working really hard this year. And I feel like we, we needed a little break. So we took a little break. It's been great. We've got a lot of stories for you and uh a lot of stuff has happened in the interim that we'd like to talk about because uh you know,

like what, what's happened?

Um

a lot of things I can, I can, I be honest, can I be honest with everyone and mostly the audience, I'm looking at you right now. It's like looking at a microwave flashing zeros here. Like when the clock, when the power goes out, there's no time. I threw a lob to mike. And the girl messaged me like, yeah, I'm done talking to mike, Go wait why? And she goes, he texted me this in spanish and he just said I eat ass.

Did you do that?

Yeah, dude, it was the funniest thing. I was like, yeah, that's hilarious. And I think she like

liked it was spanish mike. No

brother. Do you think any of what he just said ever

happened? How could he, how

could he make that up? I have a screenshot of it. Please pull it up buddy because that never occurred ever. Where are you getting these things? How do you pull that up out of nowhere? Your screenshot right here. That says, oh you incent it? Oh the story seems to be falling apart. So you had a screenshot of it but I unscented and that altered your school. It, it went back in

time Georgie. You're gonna need to read the final Soon brother

keep up this

behavior except you can't read it will get you the audio book.

Thank you, appreciate it. If not unless it's mike's voice. I don't want to hear

that. It is, it

is your voice seven hours and 48 minutes of my voice. You know my voice is bad.

I don't think, I don't think so. In fact, I'll be honest with you. I've never told you this. The only reason I brought you onto this show is because I think you have a good podcast voice. I think you have a good radio

voice because it's like

unique. It's it's right, you can hear the cocaine in,

in yourself. It's like steve o. It's like having guys like dude, it's because I'm always screaming. It's not, I don't even think it's the drugs my voice, you're,

you're allowed. I sometimes have to tell you the decibel level. Just a couple couple down

working on it. I'm not working on it but I should work on it. Um I think it's gonna take a good 15 to 20 minutes to warm up to oh thank God I'm well

we're gonna go, I think I think we run the whole thing.

I'm

sure I've realized that. So when I watched back the podcast trying to look at what we can do better. Sometimes the banter in the beginning is actually the most entertaining part for me. It's just a couple of boys trying to be entertainers talking about some dumb ship and that's cool and can be fun sometimes

stop

looking at me like

that. Okay dude, I think I might be a little. Could you wake up drunk? Yes, yes, but the thing that gets me is that you wake up drunk after having to casa amigos margarita, No, I drink Elias. Like I dropped I drink way more than I usually

would. How do you, how do you decide now that you're an alcoholic, how

much you're gonna? Also legitimately one drink will get me very, very bust because I don't don't, I never drink growing up. Uh Two drinks will have me like oh I'm drunk like two solid drinks, I had three or four

drinks and that's why the sunglasses went on the sunglasses go on, that's how I know you're and they're not yours either. You borrow a girl's sunglasses, it

was just friends,

It was Kyle but

I will admit dude, having sunglasses on when you are messed up is the most confident booster because you're like, it's just the eyes when people look me in the eyes when I'm

like a little like drunk, it's

just super intimidating.

Yeah, that's bro, I walked into the 02 arena yesterday for JJ's fight my business partner uh and not a friend. Um and I had to put my sunglasses on because we have been going all day, I couldn't walk into that arena with people seeing what I actually looked like. Then my mistake was I took my sunglasses off like maybe 20 minutes into the fights and started doing press. And so I'm seeing tweets now today, like yo Logan's coked up, what's his deal? I mean look, I was going off a little bit, I was doing some W. W. Type promo is on the mic

because you called them Fouzi chart. You know, Mike, mike

dared me to uh in one of the interviews, tell them that I felt like a log and I was able to

get it in there. That was you planned

that mike dared me. I didn't actually feel like a log floating. That's

hilarious and I'm like an idiot in the background, which by the way, I couldn't hear a lick of what you were saying at all. I don't know, I don't know if it was like you guys but whatever they were saying when you're near the ring, you can't

hear anything, you know, you can't hear at all

and you know how scary that is because what if they're saying something that's important, like please leave the arena now? No, but I was this is pretty embarrassing. I was really messed up and I grabbed reed and I go dude dude, they're trying to learn us or something. I'm looking up and everybody

in the stadium like this, they're like this,

They're like, they're like I'm like what the fudge, what's happening? And they're just going like this, they're pointing at each other. I'm like, what the fuss is happening, dude, they were trying to get on the jumbo screen and I thought the whole, the whole, they were like in my mind when I was up there like George, listen, get the funk out, and I'm like, dude, where do I go? But yeah, when I found out they need to put on the jumbo screen and then when they did the flag for United States, like all that we couldn't hear last second and I got scared there, like it might be because you know, when you're messed up trying to get insecure,

just so you know, that was not the pledge of

allegiance. That was the national Yeah, I dude, imagine they go and everybody rise.

I

was putting my hand over my heart anyways, but like my, my biggest fear is like being an asshole without knowing you're an asshole. So like, something important happening. And like, I couldn't hear it. And they're like, wow,

look how ignorant! Okay,

so yeah, so that was what

I was going on in my head. The event yesterday was fun,

Very

fun. I'd like

to talk about it. There was also two events yesterday.

Yeah, arsenal soccer game, my first ever soccer, football, excuse

me, excuse

me, Everyone from Europe, my first ever football match and I have to say. So I was only invited there, right? Because the prime partnership with arsenal, which is still unbelievable surprise. The official hydration, partner of arsenal and the logos on the field is on the banners, the animation plays. And we, we fuel the players in their match with prime. And it is a very surreal feeling seeing a logo that started off as a drawing on a piece of paper lining the field of one of the most popular football clubs in europe. Whoa. You know, it's getting very real, the atmosphere was amazing. The environments crazy. We got to go on the field, we got to bring you guys and uh we started off their

60,000

people. Yeah.

Was that your first like major, major soccer game?

Like going to one of their games. Yeah, yeah.

It was a wild experience. That was my first soccer game ever. Football.

Football. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and and you know what else affected me in a really positive way and we, I guess we can call it the J. J. Effect. But man, we got so much love. We got so like, like the the UK fans were so receptive of the americans, you know, puts it around the field like fucking idiots and they were just so sweet and kind and I can remember a time just four or five years ago where that wasn't the case, man, we were getting full paint

cans thrown at us. Like

we were getting like disks, my dad got punched in the head and then you know you uh make your enemy your friend, you do some cool things in the U. K. And the tides have turned the, you know the momentum has shifted and I feel I feel blessed, I feel blessed to have been, have received so so nicely in a country that was once wasn't always on our side and you know how strong the UK fans

can be if they're riding for you extremely we saw uh

sold out 02 arena K. S. I miss misfits uh boxing put on this event yesterday that I'll be honest with you, I was not

sure what to expect

its influencer boxing bro. At the end of the day it's influencer boxing, what is this gonna look like is gonna be a spectacle, is it gonna lower the value of what it means to be an influencer or raise the value and yesterday I think I think it elevated the what influencers are trying to build with these promotions,

I think it was like a mixed bag, like you had some fights that were more like almost like you brought W. W. E. To boxing, like character driven like that sam Hyde character

is that as a pirate,

a leprechaun, right?

A giant leprechaun,

Candyman. Yeah bro, like like that fight was but but that Thompson dude had one punch, he the Thompson dude was the reverse you like like all he threw

his right hand,

like you combined your left jab and his right hook. You got one, you got the next salt poppy. Do you know what I'm saying? Like he

is my favorite,

he's my favorite. I tweeted jake

paul, the internet wants it. So I think, I think Jake's next fight, he's announcing it this week is against Salt Poppy.

Should

I watch that? I know it's, it's, it's, it's against.

When does he announce? Can you say that on the show? That was, that was thanks to that man, appreciate it. That was at one point um a fight that was in your potential

inventory, you know, a lot of fights that were in my potential inventory seemed to be just slipping out of my hands out of my grasp. I was maybe thinking about fighting Andrew Tate. JJ called him out in the ring last night, let him have it. I want to dive into that later though

cause I do want to talk about salt

poppy. Still no arsenal, I feel like

is there anything else to say? No. Well, one thing I will say quickly is thank you to J J once again for not only smoothing things over with the UK audience but also giving us his sweet, which was incredible. Um that had a punching bag in it that are, are stupid. American acid spent the majority of the game trying to beat his record, which was 7:40, no one was able to do it until our massive security detail.

He's

a brick wall. He hit the bag once. And not only did he break the record, he broke the machine, The bag detached, the metal screw evaporated immediately. And so JJ

we

broke the machine and we're sorry and we should probably tell you hear about that.

Sorry.

We went to an arsenal game yesterday but and we were treated by JD. That was very nice. But what if I wanted tickets and I

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back to the show. So about

the kicking box. I'm surprised he comes out. He's a big personality, right? That's the cool thing what you said, it's W. W. E. Meets boxing because all of these influencers, our big personalities, that's how they became influencers, they're being funny online, people gravitate towards their energy and why I actually think influencer boxing events are more entertaining because these kids have more to lose and a lot of the time they don't know what the funk they're doing but they but they know that their ego is gonna take them as far as it's gonna take them until they can stop the clean right hook, right? And that's the fun, you can lose it all, you can become a meme in one second

and and

we saw it, we saw it happen last night, I mean unfortunately

our

boy Tommy you know uh lost in a pretty vicious way to Slim and I just, I don't know what that's like to go back to the locker room after being knocked

out yet. I can't wait till that's clint, I don't know what it's ship you are.

I

knew salt was good in the back

bro, like you could

see him hitting pads bro when he was like, it's it's

his kid from the, it's his kid from the Philippines. I think he speaks like I think he speaks a little bit of english. Um but he's just so funny and and uh and and and Slim was entertaining to, during Slims match against Tommy, he

cycle,

he like, he looked

at me bro, he was

tangled up on the rings, he looked at me

and I was wise, Yeah,

yeah, right, and after the match, he said some kind things to

me, he goes, hey,

do I have your respect now and

what have you looked at me?

Like, absolutely

not? Well, you, you told me before that fight that Slim was gonna be a problem for Tommy, You knew it how much of it comes down to experience in the ring, You know what I'm saying? Like, not just not just natural skill, speed training, but like, dude, you can speak on it more than anybody, you trained every single day for KS, I won, you knew exactly what your game plan was, You know exactly what you're gonna do, what,

what counter strikes, you're gonna make, how you're gonna move around the ring. But when you got into that ring in front of those, however many 1000 fans, how much did that change everything?

Yeah, I mean, for every boxer last night whose first time it was getting in the ring, like, that's horrifying. You know, if you've had experience of fighting before and you have natural ability, it's gonna come to you a lot easier, and that's what happened with Slim, that

Tommy had one, Tommy did have one other fight technically. So that's so he had one,

but I think Slim has been

has been at

it. I don't know if he's had multiple, but I know he's like kind of been boxing for a while behind the scenes. Um

Just just just on that fight specifically, I knew that Tommy was gonna come in there in peak athletic form, which he did, he was in great shape, He wasn't gassing, he had the he had the gas in the tank. Um Unfortunately it seemed like as you got into some of those later rounds around late round two, round three, you know what I mean? A three round fight. So in the later rounds it seemed like he wasn't able to put a lot of that energy into those punches. His punches were losing a lot of speed and already only had two weeks to train though. Is that true? No,

No, I think, I think slim did you think slim took the fight on

two weeks? Because yeah, because well, he was supposed to fight Blue Tommy supposed to fight Blue Face.

Yeah, Slim Slim took the fight in two weeks and you know, we love we love Tommy, we love face and so that wasn't easy to see. It

was a tough one for me to to you know, being really good friends with tom and Jordan and all those guys came out for the fight and the team's been with him and after the fight ended, I mean seeing their faces obviously it's not the same. He got he got code and so it's not the same as the stuff that we went through. But I went up to him after, I was like, listen, like I understand this isn't the ideal outcome for you guys. They were so like there you could see tears in their eyes, you know? And I was like, I've been through this a couple times, not in the same exact way, but to go back to that locker room after a loss or after a ko or after any kind of non ideal outcome. It sucks bro. And they texted me from the room and said, Yo,

is it always this quiet back here? Like is it always this silent? And I said, Yeah bro, like that's just how it goes and and and the team will be 50 times stronger as a result

of it. So that is the good news. That is the good news about losses and having lost many times before now and having a keen understanding of what it's like to fail at the highest fucking level repeatedly. I can relate to situations like this, I can relate to situations like DG who we saw last night in real time, turn it all around. Like this DG Ks eyes. Younger brother lost three fights in a row, you have J. J. K. S. I who's winning everything right? And in every vertical and that his younger brother was already the little brother losing repeatedly and last night he comes in the ring, you could tell he worked his ass off his mindset has switched and he got his first w I was very happy for for dead

and that was my favorite fight of the night.

He had some

heart heart heart to get hit that many times and just keep pushing forward. That was sick. I really liked it just cause you could tell both of them really wanted to be in there. Like they both had like something to like fight for because he lost to and and and in a bad way, training training for the fight and getting in the athletic form has been a life changer for whose ebro turned his entire life around. You know, he's he's I think they both won in some circumstances 100%.

But so too, I also think food is very cool and very honest. The first thing he said to us when he came up to us, he goes, what do you say? He's like, he's like, maybe I just don't have it, man.

Yeah. He said, he said I didn't learn last time. He said, he was like, I'm just not learning, learning

like maybe it's not, maybe it's not your thing, you know,

it was, he came kind of like defeated in heart, but I don't think he understood what we saw. I think in his mind when he saw us and he was kind of down, I feel like he saw us look at him like his first fight when this time we were we had a lot more respect, oh my God, you know what I mean? Like I don't think anybody was like yeah, you got his asking, it was nothing like that, it was kind of like damn, that sucker stayed in there, we went to war but but it was tough to for him because I'm gonna be honest like there's always a lot of this like U S U K and they're continuing that storyline here. Like a lot of these fights for us UK fights, right? But when I tell you that DG has been the crowd favorite and everybody has been pulling for a DG victory

for so

long and and once again I love food, that's my guy. But dude, everybody wanted to see DG win a fight because you know that he was putting so much into the training and he would get to the, to the game time and he would gas out or he would run you know whatever and to see him pull through last night, I mean I saw him after he was beaming

bro, he was so that was a happy

Yeah,

he came up to his smiling ear to ear, I I told him, oh man, I was like I was like uh I was like, man, you should really be proud, I go, I know what it's like to lose, like on that level of time and time again, and for you to pick your head up when you feel like you're at the bottom and just keep going and get that win, that you thought you never could do, that's a life changer, right? Like that will change the entire momentum of of his life, hopefully if he lets it, but very happy and very cool to see real time, and then obviously you have J J K. S. I the two fights in one night, which was

child

abuse,

Hey, listen, listen, I'll say it because you're his partner and you are like, you know, you don't want to stay in Switzerland? I'll say it can't see what the fuss was that bro? What the hold on, that was the best performance I've ever seen. It was like, this is what I felt like, I went there and I was like, this is amazing, I love all the performance, but why did you have to beat that child? What did that kid so scared, I'm so scared he did this in the ring,

bro, bro, I was standing next to a girl in the crowd and she goes, we have to stop the fight, this, this small child has they've mistaken him? How did this child get into the ring? Okay, back up preface, everybody relax, level this into into like solid ground. He had to find a new opponent Alex was, it was drive around the park, A kid get in the van, you got kids, you get in the van, put the gloves on and look at me, you're a professional, Okay, when people ask europe,

shut up,

and then he goes, dude, I'm sorry bro, I love I love K. S. I I love his content, I love him as a human being, but don't come at jake paul's fighting scores of people that he's fought and then go take a guy from the rec center, okay, don't do that, why he's the guy from the Y. M. C. A. Fighting you, there's no why is the guy who practiced by using tae bo clips to get ready for this fight? That guy was not ready for the fight, He was so scared, like if you look like that in the ring, you're

you shouldn't be. He started taking knees

and and JJ was clobbering,

J J was

trying to kill that. Okay, okay, once again, JJ had a fight Alex Wasabi that fight was supposed to happen, Alex wasabi pulled out for whatever reason, concussion or whatever, right? JJ had to find new fighters, my guess was that he couldn't find the right fighter in that little window

of time, three weeks and this part is actually extremely noble and I commend JJ for because now as the promoter and main event, you have your back against the wall, what do you do, You're gonna put on this amazing event, how can I still make history in this short amount of time? But finding a fighter who's gonna sell tickets? I'll

fight to 1 1/2 fights. I'm not doing it, bro. I'm sorry. I I know know what what do you mean by rubbing the back of his head for 45 minutes? What do you mean? It was 43 minute rounds, 17 minutes of

it. He was on the ground. Just

dyslexic. Don't go there all jokes. He's making jokes out of it. But this was a curiosity we were having and it's, you know, somebody came up to ask me questions after. I remember what outlet it was, but they were like, um, what do you think Jake paul's next opponent is gonna look like? And this was before we had just shared this news and you know, I I actually don't even know yet, but I don't think I don't think Jake would ever take that kind of fight. Like if his opponent, like, what would happen if his his opponent backed out fights over? Like, I'm not gonna fill the spot

with, I love

both of these cats,

right? one. My brother was my friend and business partner, but Jake is on some other ship right now. You just, there's no way if ands and buts about it. He's on some other ship right now, uh, putting on boxing events at, at, at really the highest level. Getting respect from the boxing industry and challenging himself with opponents that every single one of Jake's opponents at the time he's fighting them has a chance to win. It looks like it doesn't look like Jake's always gonna win, right? Ks I had one op one real option yesterday, otherwise it would have been an L. For him and it was to knock both people out,

right? And he did. I argued that the pressure was on him because remember guys he sandwiched the card, he he opened it with a fight, knocked the guy out, closed with a fight, knocked the guy out in my head. That was the only possible outcome that could have happened. That made it a win for him. Which

which it did. I think he won regardless, because at the end of the day, it's entertainment and I

was entertained throughout throughout. That's that's why it's a win.

The entire card was

phenomenally

entertaining case. I might have beat a child yesterday, but it was the greatest show of boxing out of all your shows. Out of all of jake paul shows, It was a great night. It was it was fun dude. I think everybody wanted to see a pro boxer beat

up

a kid, because here's the thing, what made you think he's like a kid, he could have been 20 in his eyes. He was like, he was like, I like my father beat me. So I know what it feels like when a kid is an adult he was maybe Ks I was just so fun, would have been like you know his final form bro? Like what if he just got there and that guy was a pro but he couldn't even what if what if what if that would have been jake paul bro canelo or canelo canelo was just looking at him like no J. J please don't know. JJ has just become the king Soopers

regardless

if I would go back in time I wouldn't change one thing,

I want to change one thing I loved it.

Also keep in mind outside of the Alex wasabi pull out J. J. J. Said multiple times like this fight is for me to knock the rust off, I haven't fought in, I'm sorry dude he knocked the rust off with that wasn't old enough to have rust on it, not to knock the, not to knock the rust off, It had the tag still on it. What do you mean the rust bro? There was no rust, he had wd 40 all over it bro, there's no rust in

it, how is that? He's

nice, he's not, what are you talking about? I was sucked up and if I got in the ring I would have gave it a better wing at it Dude it's like that's like I can't believe it bro, I felt bad, I actually I actually did like I was sitting there,

I

didn't feel bad, I was enjoying it. That's what you guys have to draw the line. I enjoyed every minute of it. Have you ever watched the olympics? And they race and they're all close together in my mind, they should put somebody who's an average runner so you could see the fucking difference, I saw the difference. Oh, and then now, oh, like the guy went down, I was like, oh my God, jay, keep going, you have five more minutes, keep beating his asking

him while he's down. That's

what I do when they're on the ground. Don't let up press anyways. So I was like, I'm liking this because he's on, he's on today. I'm a little low energy like I said after all this travel, but, but the other thing is, the event went extremely well. It was run well. It seemed like there wasn't a lot, it feels like the, the influencer boxing community is starting to iron out a lot of the kinks in the program in the television, the televising of the event, the purchasing, like, it seems like on the business side, which is obviously something that you and jake and, and Ks ir like innately involved in. It seems like things are starting to run more smoothly. Like the event last night went off pretty pretty well,

for sure. For sure. And it also, I mean, you know who you partner with is a big deal. JJ partnered with his own very reputable, well oiled machine Zone does a great job with their events and this was, you know, a great event. And

the only thing they don't do is check

I D s on the fighters unfortunately to see if they're even

fighters, Not to see if there even 60.

Oh now you're making the child abuse jokes, huh?

Mike enough.

You're rubbing off, rubbing off on mike. Don't do that. Does anyone know how J. J is feeling? I told him

like a winner bro, Listen, here's the dude. At one point I got goose bumps for him. I like close my eyes and I was like, I want to be J. J. But he came out there blasting his music. His fans are singing his own lyrics, he's walking around. Oh, I had this

thought I had this thought they play. So they played his music. Yeah, in between

the rounds. Is

that fair for the opponent

holds his his event bro. This is his world. We're all Spectators. It was like an extra. I was like, wow, I'm so blessed

to be here. This ain't your movie

today. No, no, no, no. He was doing push ups in the ring and I was like, if I was a girl right now, I'll be trying to sleep with him 100%. I'll be by the rings like JJ afterwards. You don't

even need to be a girl, you don't even need to be a girl, you can just give it a shot.

Okay, JJ wrap up that kid and let's go. So the other big question they asked me at the end of the night to was, I'm sure they're asking you is like tonight K. S. I. And jake paul fight. What happens, what happens in the event that these two walked into a ring right now with their current, uh, skill levels, their current physical fitness, get in the ring and fight each other and you you were trying to push me away from answering the question, Well, you don't you don't play in it very often at

all. I'm I'm not, but

I simply said this case, I want the ring last night did what he had to do, quote unquote, knock the rust off, got back and got back into that feeling of fighting. Um, he'll go back into camp, will take another fight so on and so forth. But if you put J J and jake paul in a ring today, Jake paul wins that fight. I don't know. Now, now listen, kes is a monster. He's he's an animal in that ring. He was back with those, those fucking overhand rights last night.

He throws intense punches, he hits body shots. He's an incredible fighter and he's gonna be a great fighter. But but the thing is that Jake doesn't do anything else. This is what I was talking to the interviewers about last night. There's no arsenal prime. There's no reacts. There's no side maintains that no bs

bs

with jake paul, fuck, you're throwing my whole, you're right. That just started bs with jake paul, Check it out. But for the most part, the kid is locked in. But even Bs with Jake paul is a boxing related

program. And by the way, I told him, I said this, this journey of podcasting in long form is a long one, and you're gonna be doing this for a while. It's gonna be really hard to keep up with as you're trying to be, you know, a world champion boxer.

And I just, and I just want a caveat and say this, that doesn't mean that in a year or in six months or whatever, that that outcome is still the same prediction for me. You know what I'm saying? I think JJ keeps fighting, I think he takes another fight, continues to show what he's capable

of, right? So, so that was the interesting thing, and I saw Jake tweet this because J J didn't call uh Jake out called Tate out and uh, you know, I was, I was, I wasn't sure what route he was gonna go, but it looks like he wants to, I guess oil up his machine a little more, get some more experience under his belt belts before he fights Jake, which, which, which I

don't mind. Me neither. I just wonder what the everybody wants to see that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but we know it's inevitable bro, like, like we have to create and craft a beautiful storyline that hooks people in from start to finish and we can continue doing that. There's no reason to make it happen now. I'm glad him and him and Jake didn't fight on this card. Right? Like that was that was a conversation for one second. He called out Andrew Tate

at the end, which which which

by the way, you want to, should we dive into the stuff?

I think, I think it's a good, I wanna chime in on the jake case, I just real quick before you go into that and I think uh I think that still be a good fight because Jake, we've seen where he goes with it, but we still haven't been able to see where case I could take it regardless of what he did yesterday bro. He was like, he could have gone and done four of those fights

over again. Like

he was ready and he was in shape and the guy wasn't able to push him to the point where he was even threatened, so there might be a chance that he's hiding in his arsenal, something that we don't even know about. Do you know what I'm saying? We know where he's hiding his arsenal because he showed it even earlier on with Logan. I mean, I mean, the kid can actually fight is a real real real contender, like, I mean, if you're not putting J. J. and Jake at 12 in the space. I mean, are you, is that is that a fair assessment? Like, and it's just a matter of just where you're putting 12? And I I specifically say today, I have my thoughts, but I'm interested to see where that goes

in six months to a year. So here's where this gets really fucking interesting. What?

Mhm.

I still think hands down. I'm the best internet centric boxer.

Yeah. You

got this man.

Listen, just put a couple of kids in the ring, play your music. No, no,

no, no, no. This this this this I'm watching the landscape unfold and I have no wins, but I'm hungry. I'm really hungry to get back in the ring, right? I'm seeing my comrades do it. And by the way, if I didn't think I was the best, I don't know if I would be anything in life, like that's just my mindset, right? Like uh

you got me number

one in my head at least, right? And that's where it always starts, because if I don't believe how the fund is anyone else gonna believe so. So, uh that's what I believe, but obviously respect to some of the greats in this particular vertical and so yeah, I'm hungry, dude. And I made a call out video calling out an opponent fully. I sent it to you guys and I didn't release it. It was

to Andrew Tate. You're gonna keep segueing into this and we're gonna keep I'm gonna keep cutting you off or he is I just want to say this. I don't think your your assessment of yourself is an unfair assessment. I just think the difference with you is you've you've shied away from fighting bums. It was never it was never an option for you. You never wanted to bro. You could have walked in, you were one of the first in the space outside of Weller and and and JJ, right? You could have walked in and said, you know what? J J I'm gonna take a different fight first or after fight one with J. J. You could have gone and fought Wasabi right and done with a lot of other people have done and gotten four or 56 wins under your belt. You know what I'm saying? But instead you said, I'm gonna fight JJ again,

I'm gonna fight Floyd Mayweather. You know what I'm saying? Like, like it's a your route. It looks very different. So when you make that statement in people's minds, it might not click prop perfectly. But the assessment could

be perhaps this question will help the click happen. If either Jake or JJ fights Floyd? What happens in your head? What happens? Right? I don't know the answer to that question. Just think about the answer to that question. You probably know the answer probably regardless. I made a call on video. I'm I'm hungry. I'm I'm training for the W. W. E. Again. And um uh 99 Originals is coming to a close holy ship were like almost done with the project, right? The magnum opus N.

F. T. Polaroid Photography project that I spent the a year, a year now releasing, um and it's going amazing. And I think we've raised over 2000 ethereum and

It's not like $52 now.

It's not that low, but, you know, Kryptos,

you

know, something's going on, something's going on. Uh, but but but massive success. And I'm finding so as people who follow my journey. No, I go in waves on certain things. I I chase certain pursuits for a little bit that I switch and do this. And then and and w w we now is becoming really real for me. I am doing so much research. I'm I'm practicing. I'm training and when you train to become a combat sports fighter, this changes your mentality. Right? So now that I'm I'm lifting weights, I'm sparring again. I'm I'm just probably I'm getting physically fit. I've cut back on the smoking and the drinking. Besides this trip. Besides this trip,

You were insane with the last statement almost fell out of my chair. You need to go to rehab buddy. Are you fucking I thought you were on like a real wave there. Okay, besides this trip. Besides this trip, I woke up at one who wants to meet me at the bar and he sent me his drink request. He was already there? It's already there. No, no, no.

Uh pre summerslam

pre jump off the

table locked in. And that does something to your mentality, is what I'm trying to say. Um that energy, that combative energy, you know, it is a little bit of an ego inflator, so I start to get fired up. I see my brother kicking ass I C. K. S. I kicking as I'm like, I wanna kick some bass again. So I did I made the call out video full on call out Andrew Tate. I know what a viral video looks like, she would have gone viral, except it wasn't quite me, it wasn't quite, excuse me. So that happens in my throat from time to time, it's become a huge sticking point in my relationship.

I'll

be I'll be kissing my girlfriend and I'll pull back and I won't move my mouth and you'll hear

yes, because it's like, but

it happens and uncomfortable amount of times

when you're like looking

at each other. Romantic romantic maybe. Uh So yeah, I I made a call out video, but the issue is I've just grown up, you know what I'm saying? I've changed and and the the way you provoke as a 27 year old is different than the way you provoke as a 23 year old and the video, I was like, yo you

fucking poor compared to me. Yeah,

what else do you

like? Your

Bugattis? Like, I went in and send it to the team and it was mixed, but but we we we ended on don't release the video, right? Whatever, like, life will fall into play as is and uh

not too long after

that. Andrew Tate. Got banned from the internet. Andrew Tate banned from this social media platform. And then the domino effect. Now he's how do

we feel about? That's what I'm going to go. If you just give that's where he's leading, he's got he's trailing us right

into I'm getting there, I'm getting there brother, I'm holding your hand through this mountain. So, so, you know, I guess, I guess in a way, although I was disappointed, I couldn't post this video, which, which I again believe would have gotten a lot of traction. Life really worked out because now you're in a situation where, and we're gonna dive into Andrew Tate. I don't feel like plat forming this guy. I don't feel like giving him the blessing of being my dance partner in the ring, especially after the social media platforms have made it very clear how they feel about this guy,

right? And and and I would even I would even I would even put a little call out here to like, fellow creators and even j j like, you want to re platform this guy, anyone, you want to have him on your shows, you wanna you wanna give him another opportunity to speak and and and spread his agenda because um whether you believe it or not, the ship that Andrew Tate is saying will have a ripple effect much more dangerous than you can imagine because his narrative is truly hateful, his rhetoric has extreme negative energy and it will affect impressionable young people in a way that will not show until years from now and it is dangerous. So now we're gonna get in the conversation of censorship, right? Because people slippery slope freedom of speech, you want to say what you want to say, but you can't do that when your platform that you want to spread your word on is privately owned and money is a factor. The companies that Andrew is spreading his speech on have a bottom line to hit their sole objective is to make money. Now,

if you have a bad actor who's smart, who is a good keen cunning, the guy knows how to speak, his takes some of them have marriage, some of them are disgusting, right? So like say he has four good takes and you're like, oh I could I see how that makes sense. One then is fucked up, right? So when Andrew Tate to the people watching his content in a entertaining way, in a way that he could lead you from thought to thought be in a cohesive way when he becomes your your your idol, your God, the person you look up to as a creator online because that's what kids are doing nowadays, right? You're at home sure you have your parents,

your you have your friends, but who do you admire online, Who are you watching? Who's influencing you, influencers influence? And they had a lot of it, right? When the one take comes out that says something, women are your property.

If your friend has a heart attack, you're not gonna give them CPr because that's gay if it's a dude, like, there's there's a million different takes that Yes. And, and, and you're right there. They're mixed in there mixed in with some takes that are motivational that are inspirational, that do have some merit to them. We we talked about this on the show with Jake. The issue becomes the the, the sentiment and how the person has received is dependent on the audience member and his audience is a very young, impressionable, unexperienced or inexperienced crowd of, of young men who, by the way, fit into a current visceral uprising that exists in this world to to overthrow some longstanding movements,

uh, towards the further validation and credibility of women and, and other protected parties. And, you know, like, I don't I don't know that I have so much of a problem with him, you know, boosting men and making men feel like powerful in their, in their place. But the question just becomes at what cost. And I think we we some of his takes have represented what that cost could could potentially be.

And and and and you all always have to remember at the end of the day, again, these these platforms that ban him can do whatever

they want to talk about your freedom. That's what he's calling out. Okay,

Calling out what though? Because because because freedom of speech,

go for it,

brother, you can say whatever you want, go in the courtyard

of the mall, stand on the table

and say whatever you want. But when you are now at the mercy of you know, um an organization that has brought you the visibility that you so desperately seek and now you wanna not play by the rules like that's just

not gonna work well. So, so the the question there becomes and the question that that the anti censorship side is asking is at what point does the legislative or government body step in to regulate what a private org that acts as the mouthpiece of the public can do in these situations. So that's where the question is starting to fall because right now there is no legislative body that can say twitter can ban this person instagram can ban this person, censorship is a slippery slope.

Yes, I agree with that. There need to be a governing body to decide. No, there doesn't bro, the

king, but otherwise otherwise. And by the way, you know, where I stand on this, we made a lot of jokes when this stuff was first coming up and and you guys made the jokes about me shaving my head blah blah blah so on and so forth. And it led to you know him following me probably and saying this guy is gonna be an ally which he now knows that I'm not okay and it's called me out multiple times and called me Logan, paul's boyfriend. Yeah, I'm your brother relationship. My thoughts are this, I don't like the censorship. I said this before, but after the dana white um conversation, this is the last time we brought up censorship. I thought about it because I watched what I said back and I was like do I agree with what I said? And I had like this learning moment,

it's like I don't agree with what I said, I'm taking back my first thing I said on the podcast. I think the platforms have every right to do what they want. It's kind of like if you're using their vehicle, you gotta respect them. But I mean you gotta respect the rules and regulations, it's their vehicle. Like you said, it's their platform, they put you at this, but if you kind of go in the direction, they're like, hey man, I don't want you using my platform to take it in this direction, pin that, that's my thought for that. But my other thing is this

the me too movement

when it first came out? It was sick we were taking out sons of bitches that should have been taken out years ago. But what happened after that is they used a really this is what they did. They go this is a good thing, this is a good thing. And then they come around from the back and then they start attacking people that they shouldn't attack. So I don't have any problem with taking out a guy that's obviously putting out hateful messages and and and rising up men that like are wanting to be or mislead women absolutely needs to go if that's the case. I've never watched any of his ship to make an assumption like that. But

my

over thought is maybe we do need something with the government because these platforms are at the end of the day very powerful. So like if you're gonna like a gun company right? It is America, we build guns are not here, sorry guys, but we build guns. But there's also the government, there's rules right? Like hey, like for both sides of the party social media is getting to the point where it is people's careers, their livelihoods and also they have like a like a community that follows them and lives by them. So I'm just talking about overall general, there should be a good middle man that's like, hey no that's like not that bad and no it

is that bad and you should get rid of. Well, okay, I had this conversation with someone because where, where is the line for censorship? Where do you draw your line in the sand? Is it when someone's rhetoric is leading to violence?

So that's one of them,

right? Is it when someone's rhetoric is racist, leading to death? Are you allowed to be sexist and racist online? Because you know, what kind of agenda that perpetuates or should we nip it in the bud before some bad shit happens? That's what I'm saying. Like what,

what does it

take? What does it take for one personally

to go? You know what?

That that person probably shouldn't be given a voice on the platform, right? Because because when you have again, a smart, articulate, entertaining orator, that kind of makes sense sometimes, and has a shipload of visibility and now has an army of people subscribing to his agenda. That's

actually

a dangerous agenda. And we've seen this time and time again in history where charismatic leaders with negative, dangerous uh agendas and platforms and visibility, get given an opportunity to spread their word and then bad should happen. So where's your in the, in the sand? Do we want to let Andrew take keep doing this before his subscribers of little fucking Tiktok schoolboys start doing negative bad ship to women and inspire.

They already are already spawning. But but but listen, his, his rhetoric is already starting to spawn on a full on next wave of Little Baby. Uh, gimp Andrew Tate Children. You can see them, they're starting to rise up and here's the issue, they're not as well spoken. They're not as as uh they don't have a few good takes there there there on the internet, talking terrible about women, talking terrible about about a lot of things that he probably understands that his 30 what 6, 37 year old age point that these people just don't get. And and there and there getting the same level of respect from the audience and they're starting to build audiences of their own. And so you're already starting to see the ripple effect

of it. So, so how bad do we want to let it get when we know when we know where it's gonna lead, You know how this ends? We've seen

it. It's just it's just weird too because it fits into it. It fits into an ongoing wave of this type of activity. I'm telling you, I've been saying it on the show for a long time now, Tiktok is is vicious, is a vicious community of this type of activity. You go in the audience, you got a guy and a girl arguing and the girl and the people in the audience, All dudes, I believe in equal rights and lefts, equal rights for women and equal lefts to, you know what I'm saying? Like there's the jokes about violence towards women about, you know, that type of activity are are at a height right now because of what I described in the last show, which was that massive pendulum swing to the left that started to support all these rights and all these new movements has to swing back and this is that swinging back and you're starting to see that community and that ground swing correct.

Which which which which? All right, Yes. Yeah. But at at a limit, at a limit that

you have to go all

the way. Exactly bro. Like um, we see this in every single vertical that goes that way. Right? Um, I'm sorry, did I cut you off? No, no, no. I know you've been waiting to say something. So I just cut you off. But I just I just want to protect the freedom of speech. That's it. But

that's protected by the way. That's I don't know what the rules are in the country he lives in but in the United

States golfer, yeah. Go scream at

the courtyard table at the mall

on the media. But that's that's the problem. That's like it isn't America it's their platform. It's youtube. It's instagram. So we don't we can't really make regardless of what we think it's not our platform.

We can't say what he hears. Here's the other thing that I want to speak on because I have a extremely keen and unrelated ble understanding of what it's like to be canceled by the entire

world. Uh, so,

so so it is interesting for me to watch someone like Andrew Tate be where he was and then gets shunned and blacklisted by the platforms that he needs most as much as he talks about being outside of the matrix. Now you're outside the club and we hear you complaining that you can't get in. He had it. Uh it wasn't an apology video per se, but it was a like an hour plus long video, not not available on any other platforms.

Obviously it was, I tried to watch it dude, but it was like when somebody starts, I was like, okay, it all started when

I was three.

That's another, that's another thing I didn't want

to. So, so so I when I when I watched these apology videos of these like accountability videos, let's call them, right? I watched this guy who's actually probably fucking evil try to make an accountability video and again, as someone who's been through it and can safely say, I came out on the other side, understanding and pathetic. The man doesn't understand. He does not get it. He is also not a good person. We know the type of ship. He says off camera, right? As much as he says, this is a joke. I

don't treat with character.

No, it's not

here. Here's what I'll say.

He

has built a platform on this return to alpha, masculine traditionalist beliefs where uh, you know, woman at center of household uh cooking for the kids, cleaning, raising the kids man at war, whatever. And he's, he's been spewing this rhetoric now for a long time. The situation, the issue is with all of that is He is not a traditionalist in his own life. He has no family, he has no wife, he's 37 years old, 36.

He

has made the majority of his money off of cam girls only fans management and casinos. Okay. The the, the downfalls of the traditionalist male. And so my question is, and my, my interest and my curiosity is how can you preach a return to traditionalism and conservatism when your entire platform and your entire net worth is based on the same things that you preach against. That's my curiosities.

That's how he makes his money.

His number

one ability is to understand the male and the impressionable male who is vulnerable and feels like they need something to fulfill them, that he knows how to get when he's pretending to be a cam girl behind the scenes, scamming

them out of there, called me a get them

sick, given the medicine

correct. And he has given me, he's called me a hypocrite. Here's the thing, I am not, I've said in my book, I've said on this show a million times, I am not your role model, Take the good pieces, take the hope, take the courage, take the the drive to continue going against all odds. The way he's delivered his messages have been dangerous since day one. He needs, he needs a a torque and a full overhaul. And the way he delivers

his messages. You know what do you know how that starts? He needs to change personally, which if everything he said about what he believes is true. He's not gonna do. So as of now my statement stands that I made in your vlog by 2023. He will not have a sliver of relevancy hopefully and and and and yeah, no fun him fun him. I'm glad he's gone. I did not like what he was doing. I don't think it's healthy. And uh maybe if he would have worked a little smarter, he wouldn't have to be complaining outside of the Matrix about how there is a Matrix because what he's describing is is just a freemason, right? You want to play by society's rules. You don't want to live in a country that protects you. You don't want health care. I mean he has money, but the things he's describing are an unrealistic freemason type of life where you get water from the well in your backyard and you

don't pay the electricity like,

like cool, cool bro. That's fucking cool as you sit inside your jet and trick everyone who's subscribing to your fucking shit and making money off him again. That's his number one ability is to trick dumb men is to trick impressionable dumb vulnerable men. Yeah,

just just on, on a bigger topic really quick too besides the state, I don't understand, I said this to you yesterday, I don't understand this rush to get red pilled. And I and we were talking about the red pill, you know, blue pill conversation and how it's become so prominent, you elaborate on what that is for people. So so in the in the movie, the Matrix Neo is given the the opportunity to choice to take either the red pill and to discover the true meaning of of life and and what the Matrix is and how it controls his mind or taking the blue pill and continue on living in the Matrix as people know it and, you know, over the past couple of years, the online community or a small portion of it, by the way, the same small portion who also seems to be obsessed with a lot of the chauvinistic tendencies, a lot of the under the ground swell that we're seeing in that community is aligned with that red pill blue pill community.

My question is just like for me personally, and the reason I say, I don't care, because I'm not in a rush to red pill myself, I don't I don't have a lot of this community right now is growing in the streamers and and and they and all these people and and trump and all these people are growing to fight against this liberal agenda. And I'm not saying that that's a problem. Not saying that we need to push back on woke and that we need to get a little bit more moderate, right? But but woke very much was a bunch of screaming, crying, annoying people, whiny bitches, both men and women. And now without even knowing it, it has spawned a conservative group of whiny fucking bitches sitting at a desk complaining about shut up how we're strapped, get in the kitchen,

masculine men, women have too much rights shouldn't drive, shut the up. Sleeping. Put me to sleep. Give me the blue pill and the steak. I'm the guy in the Matrix eating the way the fucking, the way the steak taste. That juicy steak, we're we have one life. We come here to enjoy it, to live this life, to build a fruitful situation for ourselves, for our friends, for our family. Yes,

there will be problems along the way. Yes, there will be obstacles and people that stand to try to take us down. But if you think I'm gonna sit behind my desk like Steven crowder for 12 hours a day and bitch endlessly about the state of things in this country, you are mistaken

and and

and make no mistake at all. All of these half fast attempts to radicalize or redesign male thinking has all these young kids fooled. Like you said, it's all clicks and views. There's no there's no Andrew Tate. Doesn't give a funk about society, tucker. Carlson doesn't give a funk about society and on the other side, Don Lemon, all these guys on CNN they don't give a ship, they're gonna say whatever they want to make you watch and you click. That's it, that's it. So that's why I want people to watch and click too. But I'd rather show you cheeseburgers. I'd rather show you me having a good time. You know, don't like porn stars, don't watch it. You wanna fucking scream radicalization and fix the crying liberals and the and the bleeding heart liberals. You can do it at the mall courtyard

on

the table or one up, we'll give you one up, take it to rumble, take it to a platform allowing you to do

it. So this is interesting. This is really interesting. Okay, I watched a documentary on netflix um where I forget the name of it. I was high, I'll be honest with you but I remember the content,

I

don't remember much of them high. Uh it was a documentary or may have been a docuseries about a girl that accidentally dated a white supremacist and sort of like by default and I guess out of love got sucked into this white supremacy world and what she found was and why a lot of these like extremely radical groups fall apart is and and who knows if we'll see this happen on on rumble is truth. Truth

is

it the same thing. Are these platforms that allow you to really

just say whatever you want

and and allow anyone

to say whatever you want, right? So

here's what happens when you have these, these, these people now who, who seek this ability to say and do whatever you want. And now there's certain platforms providing it, I think it's great. Right? Go go on this platform, say whatever you want. The radical folks on those platforms vary. There's a spectrum of radicalness, right? And they don't all agree with each other, but there's people that are at the very end of the spectrum, the opposite end of the spectrum that are extremely racist, extremely dangerous, dangerous.

Believe in really just file ship that I don't, but I would like to believe that humanity has grown past. So they don't agree with each other even though they're on the same side and they want freedom of speech. Someone's agenda may be more dangerous and too radical for the radical person. So then they get in tips and and don't represent each other even though they think they're on the same team and they're not because when you are making ship that's solely coming out of what you believe that you may have heard from somewhere else and you're just regurgitating information. It's not always gonna line up with the other person who's on who's on that

plan. You're describing the current state of politics in America literally the left and right are at war with each other because there's radical rights, moderate rights, you know, uh you know, people on on the middle conservative all over the place and same thing on the left, you've got fucking wild liberals, you've got aOC, you've got all these people and everybody's disagreeing and the parties are starting to fall apart. So even even the radicals don't agree with each other, The moderates don't agree with each other. It's a messy situation and it's a, it's a test and a learning lesson for how we behave as humans. We had to go through the same activity prior to social media. How do we talk to people we don't agree with. Now, the question has become scaled and become a massive situation.

How do uh three billion people on social media who all have intensely differing viewpoints coexist? Well, well run by organ nations who have their own viewpoints with a legislative body on the side, who has its own view and by the way, not just viewpoints, intentions, desires, greed, all of these things thrown into a bubble and we're just sitting here as the guinea pigs are trying to see where it all goes.

Well said that was

that was beautiful, you're right, it's a nightmare.

It's a nightmare. And and it's really interesting that we are alive in a time period where our generation is gonna have to do the figuring we're gonna have to figure some shit out. You haven't answered to your question is because at the end of the day, I can sit here on this podcast and say whatever the funk I want and some people are gonna agree and some people are gonna disagree and and I believe that supernatural, like don't don't don't think that because we disagree and George and I disagree on it all the time and we're best fucking friends, don't think because we disagree, there's not some sort of common ground can reach, even if it's just agree to disagree. So do have anything because I'm planning to be the president of the United States brother. And my goal is to fully unite these states. So what is the answer to the question of how can we get to a place where we can have a meaningful conversation that ends with some sort of positive net positive outcome

to 22 answers. One is one is just empathy and how we speak to each other. If you have a belief set that you know is very core to you and that you want to express, but also can anger or divide a an opposing viewpoint, you need to learn how to express those views in a healthy manner. Okay, Unless you're doing it for views and clicks and if you're doing it for views and clicks like everyone, we see all the pundits, Shapiro crowder aoc for one side or the other just to be clear. No one on the show is a woke liberal, no one on the show is even a liberal we are we are moderate to conservative. We're not fighting for people to be for everybody to be censored. That's not what we're doing here. People need to learn how to talk to each other in a healthy manner. I learned that in the corporate world I used to sell crack. I was a piece of corporate world. No and I didn't know

how to talk to you and

you know what you know what it got me, felony charges my ass beaten. Then I went into a real world environment and learned about chain of command and learned about how to speak to people in a positive manner while also expressing your concerns. The problem is not everyone has that classical training so you've got a bunch of animals spewing you fat, ugly and and and and well Tate may have had great takes unfortunately they were said in a way that drove views and clicks and not in a way that was positive for conversation and and end of story and that's why the Almighty algorithm giveth thee almighty algorithm take it away. And and occasionally the almighty algorithm drops its mighty sword and severs the head of someone that doesn't like him. You know Jack Susan and and you know and and Mark are making those rules. I'm not I'm not I don't know if it's right or wrong but listen I came up in the underworld I know that there's people you can rough up, there's people you can buy and there's people who call the shots and I ain't fucking with any. I like the platform. I'm not saying that's okay, but, but hey man, youtube, you got rules and I'm here to follow

them. Yo yo, we need the platform in in that way. Yeah, we're caught in the matrix. I don't give a funk. It's great here. I don't want to pump water from the well in my backyard. I don't wanna go scream on the table in the courtyard. I wanna vibe out with cool people on social media and expand my horizons with things that never could happen 20 years ago because I have an android device in

my hand. I

think I use Apple by the way. I was, it was more like a robotic tech kind

of thing. You have to go. But I want to ask both of you, this is there a potential redemption arc for Andrew

Tate? I've been

asking myself this. Absolutely everybody has one. Yeah, I agree. Everybody like, I could never say, I could never for a second say otherwise. And I asked you guys the question but you go first go because I changed my life changed. I was in a terrible place and look at me now. So I think everyone deserves a fucking you guys have been my close friends for a long, for a very long time, especially if you've been almost a decade and how I react to enemies. Each one and I had one recently that we just talked about uh every single enemy that I look in the eyes, my goal is they don't even know this. It's it's spiritual warfare when they leave my room or leave my presence constantly. I'm praying for them, no bullshit and I'm not on something like, oh here we go. This christian guy just spewing again. It's it's warfare. I'm trying to get

as many people,

not fake lee, but in real life to be my friend. I know if you have an issue with me, I know at the end of the day, Andrew Tate had to go through something to become. Andrew Tate. So take his philosophy, put it here, if I disagree with it, I'm gonna slide it right here and I'm gonna try to diagnose the problem if he's sick, where is the medicine? And the medicine is? Speaking of what I feel like now he can take it or he can't take it. Now, I'm not saying I have the medicine, everybody can follow me, this is what I'm doing. But I'm saying if you have an enemy,

the best

thing you could do for warfare in your life is get them to be a friend. All of them, every single one of them. Even if he's like, you look at me like, yo there's no hope for this guy, There's zero hope for this guy, there's that's not the case, every single this is what I in movies when you see a bad villain, this is

him,

I'm going to take over the world, I'm going to use this and destroy but in real life a bad person is usually put in a position they don't want to be a part of or they're uncomfortable or they make an accidental mistake that leads to a life bro. You didn't wake up one day and be like I'm gonna be a drug addict and ruined my whole family's life. You woke up one day and you were like, I'm gonna dabble in this and what I'm saying is at the end, it always starts with a tiny bit of a dabble. Like that girl that fell in love with a guy that is racist, but she didn't look at this guy like God bless, he's tall, rich and he hates black people, this is great, she didn't start this way and maybe racism, I know this, I'll bring up racism, I'll bring up racism in the way that I see it when 9 11 happened and I was in the third grade, a part of me understood why that white kid in class was mad at me, I got it a little part of me was like dude,

somebody that looked like me just caused a lot of pain to 2000 people, I have to have some type of empathy to be like yo bro, I get it, I understand why you're talking like this, but it ain't me, I'm this isn't that and if you could come at a level of like understanding, you know, this guy hates because of this reason, there has to be a reason empathy. I mean what he's describing right now is specifically and perfectly defined empathy, having understanding for and and a feeling a potential feeling for what you're opposing viewer is feeling is the only way to relate and connect and drive through that division. That is we say this all the time and the unfortunate part of it is empathy is not something you can go buy at the store, it's not something that someone can teach you, it's not a lesson, you can, you can be, that's the

hard part about it though and and and and you mentioned this, I think in one of the last charlotte is a lot of empathy, especially if you have trouble understanding and getting there in your head like I did comes from trauma, right? Some people just haven't been through ship to make them Yeah, for sure,

for sure, but wisdom can come in many ways, bro, it doesn't you don't have to go

through it, you can watch it and I agree every person is different and there's a quote that that max and I think I've mentioned this before and I like it, it's um it's uh experience is the secret ingredient between knowledge and wisdom. So for me it is that experience,

I know you have no real, I don't mean to interrupt you but how do you take in the experience? You watch a movie that's an experience you want to play. It's not the same as charlotte charlotte main said it's just not the same when you go through an event in your life that put you in that, I mean you don't know you can you can clean and you can take learning for sure but when you go through and here's the other thing with it to that trauma can also push you in one of one of two ways so you can either take your trauma, learn from your trauma, become empathetic, become a better person or you have a villain origin story, you know his mom and dad were killed at the grocery store in front of him and now what is he? He's a murderer, he's a serial killer. So it's it's it's it's tricky bro this is not simple stuff I think I think because the main audience and the main people that are talking about this specific situation are such a young group, they like to use absolute and specific statements. Andrew Tate was de platform by the man. That's it. This this conversation is so deep,

they probably thought it was

a woman. Yeah probably I mean

Susan

I guess

I

guess my I think we're all on the same page but also just to circle back with the guy that I did forgive, I saw him and I was like hey bro and I remember

looking in his eyes the guy who called you a terrorist

in the no no no I'm sorry the I had a recent um issue

with somebody

and uh so in real life I went up to him, we were at the beach and was like hey but I could see in his eyes he's kind of like what the funk like why are you, why are we good like this? You know because I was really good about it uh short story a few months later and mind you I didn't do this for this reason, I'm just giving an example. I was stuck in a position where the door was closed on me and there was only one fucking guy that I knew that could open up the door for my problem and I was like oh we're good now. So I like I texted him and was like hey man do you think you help me? 10 minutes later it was all gone. It was just a really big learning lesson to me, I'm not gonna take somebody's bad experience that turned him into an asshole in my point of view. Say funk. This guy, if I forgave him for me in the end, you don't know how that could benefit you, so really forgiving somebody moving, I could help you more than it

could even help them for you. I forgave Ks I for beating me and then we started prime. So I see

what you're saying. Yeah dude, if you want to be rich and

successful, forgive

and forget and just I'm like a final cap on it to like I don't I don't hate that guy at all. I don't I

don't even know

even slightly. I don't I don't I don't have any bad feelings towards him whatsoever. He, I hope that you can, even in that video he posted, you could already see him starting to kind

of feel like he

was, he was okay. Like yeah, I've pushed a little bit too far and by the way, I don't even know that he hadn't already started to implement that. I

think I think as as as as alpha as you can be dog, I'm telling you, there's a toll it takes on your mental health. He thinks he's just a stoic warrior at all times when the whole world's coming down on you. That's

not easy man. And and

and for that reason I have

empathy for sure.

But Gary V once told me this bro, you sleep in the fucking bed you make and you have to take full accountability for the ship that you do in your life and he's got to do that and if he can do that and and find himself using his

gift gift

by the way,

he

can, he can do, he can do great ship. It's gonna take some time we need some, we need some time to unwired and and correct this weird toxic masculine imbalance that that may have made a little comeback by

the way, dog, you

all know me, I'm down to be a

male. You'll protect,

provide

100

percent through and through no matter what. But there's a limit to like what is the true alpha look like. Right? Do you need to talk about it?

You got to talk about? No, no, no, no, no. You don't talk

or you just be a fucking man. You be, you be an actual man protect the people you love provide for the people you love and and, and and have that in your back pocket knowing that knowing that you are it already and

you don't, I don't need

to validate what

you think you have. We fight over labels in every vertical that it's always a label, you call this or it's your fighting for that. And it's just like it really it doesn't matter. Words became so much more powerful than it should.

Like I think words are powerful words.

I didn't know that until like my late 20's I was like you

use certain words that have feeling attached to it or that are charged and and, and you can rattle eyes convince you can make impressions on people just because of language. Language is language is what made our species, the homo SAPIEN SAPIEN start to develop organizational infrastructure to tools, groups planning, but

the war, everything, everything

that Comes with both but language words, the way we communicate is like one of the sole reasons that we are the way we are now

in 2022 and you're seeing and you're seeing this um wave that I keep talking about on social media which also includes a sub component of it, which is why are you guys getting so mad? Like they're just like, like dude words hurt people bro. Words were as you just said, words are very powerful, extremely powerful and very hard to take back. Once

you say them, you can weaponize language like you would never fucking

understand. It's been done

before in war and propaganda, that's all like you're you're rallying a country or a subset of people to believe a certain thing just because of how you speak. It's it's everything bro what you speak and what you say matters and you can't just go saying random fucking shit that has a dangerous effect

to it like that Hey all and also side note the uh I think like these kids are also young and even like I had a guy come up to me last night at the club that was like 23, he he asked me, he's like um you know, out of nowhere, he's just standing next to me, it's like two in the morning, like yo I'm 23 years old and I've never hooked up with a girl before and I looked over my first one is I've never met you before, didn't even tell me your name, like he was just in my ear and I think we, I think we like over like no, no, no no, no, I said you know what I said to him,

you

know, in my mind, maybe I was thinking that, but in all reality, I said to him, you know, bro, that's completely okay, like, like that, that's how I am, is of course it's okay, but let's let's not lying to him, no, it's not smacked him in the ring and whispered in the ear, it should have been you in the case I ring No, but but but I think that what,

what a lot of these, these younger guys are looking for is a role model that will instruct them the ways to have girls or to get to get girls right, and I think that was part of Taitz, you know, aura was that he was top G, he was the guy that could show you how to do it, but he, he just created this really unrealistic approach. None of your audience has Bugattis, thank God bro, but not, not, not not the confidence, but dude, you're not looking for someone who can throw on a Richard mille or pull up to the club in a Bugatti or fly on a G five or that charter jet where he was calling me your boyfriend, like,

like girls, I promise you, I know so many fucking internet gurus Logan, you can attest this. We know so many internet gurus who have made millions of dollars and they wear the richard mille and they show up on the G five to basel, Basel and they want to come to our table at the club because there's a difference between using fucking confidence and being just a cool nice person and having to create some fake or a for yourself to get women. It's just, it's just I get what you're saying. Why did Andrew Tate when you

could be us were

way cool, low blow man, low blow by the

way. How would you like,

you can't make a comeback.

I was just thinking about it like

no, no, no, not yet, not yet, not yet.

He got, he's gonna, what he'll need to do truthfully is a Set his beliefs right? He needs to go through a little bit of a personal reform. I think it's 2022 were not fucking cavemen anymore. Women are our equals and partners if you are in a healthy loving stable relationship or whatever your relationship is with women. Uh and then I think you'll have to like lobby honestly like go around and almost almost almost pitch himself does

the donation help.

So this is what I watched his video so he made, he made a donation to, I think I was like a woman's foundation or something of a significant

amount of like

A million, 1.2 million I think. Um and in his video, he was complaining about how he didn't get any headlines right? Like his his problem with it was that they make headlines on all this negative stuff, but when he does something positive, where's the headline on that? Right? And the issue is you only did something positive because people are coming after. You can't just throw money at a problem and expect it to go away. Which is another, it's a tell that you don't quite understand what's happening

here after

he got after. Yeah,

that's not gonna work. And he's like, I'm not

as smart as he is, he really

thinks that

he just throw

$1 million. Let me, let me, let's slow down for a second in the very quick interim post. Tokyo.

Wait,

I did it. I

did it. I didn't complain about not getting a headline.

I did it to

do it. I did it because

it was the right thing to correct

and I would never have gone, where's my fucking headline? Good thing. I did. Even though I did this cascade of negative ship, you can't

do it. You don't understand. And you knew, Maybe not at the time, but you definitely know now that no matter how big that donation was, that was a quarter of a percentage of you needed to do to grow out of that issue and the reform and yeah,

nothing,

nothing and to create a new reform damage to yourself. Listen man, I, I hope he, I hope he becomes a better person. I have no, you know, bad feelings towards him or his brother or anyone and even they want to talk a little ship poke a little fun, I'm fine with that. But like, you know, I hope he pulls the ship together, learns what he has to do to continue on and

make a better place. This be,

oh my God, whoa

Japan happened case that called me out for a fight. I said yes, I fought him, it happened, got removed from the internet case, I called him out for a fight, Is this the beginning of kate's redemption? Our fight through K. S. I. And his Kss Kss entire existence

beyond all the same

careers

just brings people back from the same. But

that's my question to, to JJ's like, do you wanna fucking platform this guy,

Maybe we were talking to the same about you to decide, do you want to? Oh yeah, 100% the issue with the platform ng was this, this platform is a new discussion just as of a week ago because a week ago he had the greatest platform on earth, He was the biggest

thing on earth

up until his deplatforming right? But now that question has merit. Listen, like all those, get take on messages that we all got for months. It wasn't like we were hitting them up saying, come on the show, we could have been the first, you know, we could have, we could have any fucking guests we want. We have one of the largest platforms on the planet. If you combined Youtube views and Spotify. Listens we're probably in the top three of the largest programs on the planet. If we wanna have a guest on the show, we'll have a guest on the show. The conversation was there actually was you? Because I said, are we are we gonna debate on? Look look, look

that episode would have gotten an amazing amount of use. I took one quick look at this guy said this is not my steve's. I do not feel like putting this guy on my platform to talk about his fucking bullshit because it is bullshit.

And when you poke

through it, you realize this bullsh because not even, he can make sense of the bullshit he's saying, right? He just says, it says ship to say sh it it got him in trouble. He got bit in the ass and now he's whining on his fucking couch

in a room. You would want to do that. Like I almost want to see him do like find a new craft now like working or going back into

fighting, go be a kickboxer. I

mean that bro because dude, why do you want to do that?

He's getting older. He's out of the game smoking cigars. We'll see what happens. I don't give a fun. It will be entertaining though. And by the way, that's why I live my life to be entertained. Is there anything else? Anything else? Georgie? You have to go?

I Think I'm 30 minutes late. 20 one.

Don't you go back to the States? We miss you. We love

you. All right, well thanks for having me guys London, you're not the guest man. Thanks so much for having us. Why are you always coming at me? Dude, comment down below how Mike always bullies me every time he writes a book to help people, but then he doesn't even help his own best friend. That's kind of

sucked up a little bit of a serious show today. Uh, but there was some stuff in there that I felt was important.

I like boys. Only way better than guess.

Yeah, they're fun. Tell the guests that the

next time they come on. Yeah, but they just never look at me because

you really tell the guests that really cramping our style

dude by the way as

a unit. Our

last guest. Wait, did we put it out yet?

Sorry. You could say whoever you want charlotte

man. Michael

Jackson.

Do we do we put that up my brain? Sorry, sorry, sorry, I didn't know how many times. Hey. Hi, you gotta go.

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