Acting for Everyday Life with Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher
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All my life, everyone's told me I should focus on being good at one thing. But the truth is, I'm curious about a lot of saints, but how do you learn about everything? The answer. Make the world's best experts teach you in less than an hour, so come along with me as we all learned something new in today's episode of Teach Me Something New. My co hosts and husband, David, I sit down with Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis. We wanted to know if acting is a skill they use in their real lives. And if they have any tricks for us, they break down some of the biggest tips. They've learned his actors, and it gets pretty hilarious.

Believe it or not, this is their first podcast together and first in depth interview together since their days on that seventies show. Take a listen. We're thrilled to have Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher joining us today. They're here to teach us something new about acting, specifically acting skills we can all use in everyday life. Is that what this is? No hallmark. You're like out of the fetus acting. I'm pretty sure. Naturally, I feel like I can put on a fucking about it. Explain how different you and I you are very well aware of how different you and I are at acting.

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We're very different acting.

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How did you guys start acting? I started when I was Ah 99 e fell. I saw Lisa Frank ad was that it that was after. I mean, everybody was in the established nine year old of that. Okay? I came to the States when I was seven. I'll give you a quick worlds comes days. When I was seven, I was a little shy, learned English. My parents were like, Wow, she's precocious, to say the least, but I was very shy because I didn't speak the language very well. There's a thing advertising the radio called Beverly Hill Studios.

Um, it was advertised as, like, a fun place for kids to meet other kids. And it was like on a Saturday class for five hours and you're too addition. And you see, if you get in, everyone got it. So I got in and they're like, Cool, Your daughter is so talented. We need a check for $600 you know, is one of those things such a scam? Total scam. My dad's like Hale. No,

because maybe we had $600 in the bank account of that time. I mean, like, maybe so. But I have left of my mom was like, I'm gonna write the check. So she wrote the track. And to this day, if you're like, Why did you write the checks? Because I don't know. I just had a feeling. So she rode the $600 Jack. I go into these classes, my parents work multiple jobs full time, and I met my manager,

who's my manager. To this day that makes the 27 years. Wow, my manager is driving on the street, saw a gaggle of kids and was like, Yeah, this seems like a good place pulled over and was like What's this? And they're like, It's an acting studio. She was like, I'm a manager. Total L A story went to a showcase. My parents were like, Listen, if you want to do this at nine, you have to make the decision if we want to go to.

And there's like other agents and other managers and for whatever reason, I chose Susan Curtis, and then here we are. But did you know inside your heart like this is what I want to d'oh! No, because of nine years old and sorry to understand what this is. It's not like social media existed. Where gave you a trajectory of work. Life is possibly going like there was no way of seeing from ABC. It kind of was like, Oh, I can play pretend. Yeah, okay. Seemed fun at the time. It seemed like so much fun.

And the idea of, like, I could just say these words and people give me actual isn't pay attention to me, right? Don't like That's all it was. We all know where it's ended up in. Ashton. What

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about you? I did, Ah, play in middle school. And when I was I was, like, six or seven grade or something like this and I got a laugh.

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Well, one laugh, one last,

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Okay, Just in the way that I was playing like the thief in this play. And I was like, This is amazing And that was it. Then I did every single play through all of middle school. Every single play in high school was in, like the FSB in society and competed in state competitions for acting. And then you immediately different. Yeah, I think it would like of like psychoanalyzed. I think it was like being the middle kid of three. And, like my brother had a heart transplant were 13. I think it was just, like, literally just getting attention was like the drug that I got hooked to. And then were the technical aspects interesting?

Like how to do it? No. I mean, I was just kind of like flying by the seat of my plants and like, showing up, and I was also in sports and other things, so I would come to like half of the rehearsals and then when it was show night, just like turn on, just go. It was all just fully instinctual, and then I just fell

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in love with it. So do you think it's an innate ability, or can anyone act? I

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I don't know if we agree on this, and I I think that there's a general sense of being able to play pretend really well that you can sort of see at a young age, and some people kind of have that talent, and some people need to really work on that talent, and I think with enough work you can get to a certain point. But you may never get to the point of the people that air hyper successful in that field. If you don't have some version of that innate talent, but you can learn all the mechanics of acting, but being able to pull it off and have confidence in it in the moment and throw yourself all the way in. That's a whole other thing. Like I see Milla do things is an actor that I go. I don't even know how you're doing that right that I just, like, look up to and admire so much because she just has this capacity like fully two things. I just don't understand how she's doing, where's like I could do with the mechanics all day long to get there and never get to the places that

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she goes, Huh? Miller? What what's your take on that question? Can anyone be an actor? I Xia groups say I agree with it, but yeah, I do. I think that I think that anyone can act. I do think that anybody could be put in play. Anybody can do it like your skills. Is your voice your body like a form of that right? But as far as being successful at acting, I do believe that in early age there's a certain type of people that just innate we have a good imagination or the ability you know our kids are the best. I can explain it. Our kids are in different classes, right?

So they're like in dance class for this class of that Full disclosure. My, my Children are gonna be dancers. Okay, Like this, and it'll never happen. Maiken promise you my kids are Could they dance? Yes. Yeah. Do they love it? Yes. Do I think that they're the greatest human beings ever created? Of course, Ideo. But there are kids in their dance class that I look at that. I go Oh, well, clearly that kid if wants to, he can or she can succeed.

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But I think it's like one of the things I think it's like the MBA or like the NFL. Or like any of those things where it's like, you know, if you work incredibly hard and your semi athletic, you could be successful to a certain level. But to go pro, you either have to have, like, some physical capacity that most people don't have like I mean, I watched like this guy Tyreek Hill for Kansas City, and he's like running it like a like a 4 to 40 and you're just like that's insane. If I tried to tackle Tyree kill that would be impossible. Came over just that wouldn't be so. I think there's, like a point where you go. You know, the system kind of filters out the people that don't have some,

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but it's like the small ability. Yes, we're like the exact order they expect Next, master. Yeah, which I think is every industry. I think when you find your calling, that's because you have found your X factor. Yes, like a You clearly found yours like But you both of you did like it really is true. Yeah, So you get to a certain really good generalised how you're acting style is different from one another. I'll say how we're different doing take it of Germany's first. This is how we're different. I can click in and out of a character. No problem. In between takes, I can snap out of it between scenes. I could snap out of it. My husband has to live it.

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What does that mean? Like, so live

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it. You'd be kind of becomes that character a little bit throughout the process and he comes home and he still has the same body mannerism or the same voice or the same. You know, X, Y and Z. It's weird, and maybe it's just the way that I deal with it, but I almost look. Acting is therapy. You're in it and then you're out of it, Blake. And then you take your lessons and you go home and then you're better for like that, Like I really do think acting could be up to me. It's like emotionally I get to express everything like no one's gonna call me crazy. No one's gonna call me dramatic. No one's gonna call me anything you like my characters or what I want them to be and how I want them to be. And so in the moment I can react the knack,

the way that I think that they would. And so you know, you can trick your mind, but you can't trick your body, Um, and so you can trick your mind into being like I am now really upset. For all intensive purposes, your body is upset. So you, the same way that you get to a fighter is scream or yell. You're exhausted afterwards, like that's a release like you have an emotional release every day that I get to go to work, I have some form of emotional release. I therapeutic

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one of the conversations that we've had. I remember distinctly you saying that actors save up those emotions you know from hard experiences, toe, Then use that later on. I remember hearing that and thinking, Wow, that makes a lot of sense, but it's not something that I've ever thought

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of. It's the way that I do it right, Like everyone kind of grabs things from different places. Like some people mimic people. They know they have a character that they're like, Oh, that reminds me off that person I know. So how would they do it right? Like there's everyone has a different way of finding a connection with the character. So are their characters. You wouldn't. You can't play. You could never play. You can play any character. He'll for sure. All humans all people have have the same spectrum of emotions will experience life through a lens, right?

Yeah, it's just only gonna makes us different, is what your version of anger is versus what? My version of anchors. But it's still anger, right? Your happiness versus my happiness is still happiness. It's, you know, it's all perception. And so every human being is a human being, and it was just a matter of what emotion

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you give them. There's a scene in the movie once upon a time in Hollywood, where we in order DiCaprio's character plays this really evil character, and the directors like screaming at him to get more angry

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and more that

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I wouldn't work for me. And there's this, like, there's a moment right at the end where you can see the scene's over. But you can see how destroyed he is by having had to do this.

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Yeah, I don't respond well to yellers for his directors. Go like I do take it personal. That's which is funny, though. You played Steve jobs in a movie who is like known as a really hard core manager

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and yeah, which was, like, so out of body for me, because it's not Olson, just not the way I managed, not the way I would want to be managed. But I had to get to a point where it was like Holy justified to treat people that way and, uh, not only justified to treat people that way. But I knew that treating people that way would make them better rightly, which was a complete flip of my personal psychological way of approaching things. So, to Neil's point, like I have to create a playbook of getting into character. And what are the my own personal triggers to actually like get myself to a point where that is the way I behave and the way I walk in? It's almost like you need a long a longer warm up process.

Yeah, 100%. And in some ways, like I never get out of the game like I go home and still have a piece of the character that it can. You still Steve Jobs now? No, it took me a long time to shed

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it. Yeah, it is. It's a big day. I'm fine. You can just bounce out of it like last scene is shot and you're done

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totally know legitimately. She goes and dust these things and then comes home and she's like cooking dinner and everything was good. And I'm like,

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How do you do

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that? Like, I don't I don't do the ranch, which is like we're just telling jokes and like having fun and I come home with an accent and

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she's like, Why are you talking like that? Hey, it's different. I don't know, like it's the same thing. Quite the artist paint everyone, everyone, and there's no right or wrong way to do it. But like four good days is a good example. The night before, he wants lines with May. Sometimes I just need to, like, just run lines. And then I, like,

write a note down like a pops into my mind. I'm like, Oh, I like the way that I look at all of this is I do all my homework beforehand and then when I show up to set on my fucking and literally Michael, let's see what happens. Just throw the script away and go with the emotion. Now that the script is, you still have to say the words, but like the homework that you do to make the character makes that's

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got it. Meanwhile, I basically have to have the entire script memorized before Day one of shooting, like, even be able to go.

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That's where I think like I do homework. I just I don't know. I do, I do my I do so much homework. And then I convinced myself of it. And I feel like in somewhere some, maybe a neuros doctor maybe can explain better than I can. But somewhere my brain, it must sit in there like I did. You believe

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in muscle memory? That's interesting that you say, out of body, like it made me think. Like, Is it almost a spiritual experience? Like, do you sort of feel like you literally become the character?

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I still

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feel like I have to convince myself that I am that that I am that person, All right, I don't need people to call me by the name of the character, anything like that. But I have to convince myself that that is who I am. I mean, like, when I was playing Steve jobs like, I fired somebody who I'd worked with for like, 10 years. Just it was like, Yeah, I apologized, like in the middle of Just get out of here. I never want to see you get your gun,

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but that's all it is. It's muscle. Memory is muscle memory. You have ah, memory and it's in your muscles. It's in your body and you just kind of go.

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I think that's a really

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good point that my

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homework is that there's this. I think people frequently because we all think of the mind and the body is different things. There is this, like emotional body memory of what that feels like. How do you like Reese? Something so much more powerful than the mine. There's this technique where you can like Thai emotional sense memory, thio movements. So you think of an emotional moment that you've had in your life. And like every time you think about it, you like, clasp your hand and then if you're in a scene and you just need that emotion to be immediately there, you clasp your hands together and that emotion Wait,

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is this how you cry on command? I'm always wondered. Know? How do you cry very different ways of doing this. No, wait in life that I could go into set and think of a technical think that I have to do and not be present because, like, I'm so the 1st 1 every like I could never like I could barely get on my mark. Mike. Yeah, Mark is a suggestion versus my husband. Probably like a markets of Bismarck market. Meaning the place you stand like it's gonna be somewhere around. There are still a DP that focused on Mike. Listen, is I'll get somewhere in the vicinity. Yeah,

and I know that that's a horrible thing to say. And it is a focus puller listening. They're rolling their eyes right now, but that is the truth. But if I'm just in the scene and I'm playing off of you, I'm just gonna wait for you to do something that gives me reason to react. You don't give me something reason to act. I'm not gonna react like I can't force myself to do it like I really do Look at it as a tug of war. And he's much more technical

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that I studied how Cary Grant Toda Mark and like the movement of putting his hands in his pockets as he steps up into the place, which is actually just him looking down to make sure he's standing

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not all of us are actors. But I think it's relevant because we all use acting every day, even though we don't know it. Would you agree with that totally and where Do you think we could best use acting skills? And how can it help us? Is that there is a whole movement like live your truth, Be your authentic self study. Mining is acting actually, deception in line. Yes, present.

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I've always thought I'm so jealous of people have lots of acting skills, especially in parenting, because you can become many different characters. And while you're playing with your kid and that's something that not everybody was really funny is I sometimes try to read our daughter books, characters, voices and she's like, dead. Can you just

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use your real voice? Yeah, they don't like

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you because I'll do like Peppa pig with, like, an English accent and then, you know, Daddy Pig and all of it, and she's like, just doing like, your regular

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voice. But they're not that into it, David. I will sometimes be like, I bet like, Why am bearer of the best life ever? Cause they're they're here, you know, to just put on shows everything we d'oh! I think we're silly at home were very goofy parents when it comes to our Children. But but down this skill, I think that's just being idiots like I think we're very comfortable with ourselves acting a fool at home, I But maybe that comes from the idea, like being comfortable in your own body and in your own skin in your mind and not, you know, having if you're making a fool of yourself.

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Little what? You just said that, you know, in acting, it sounds like you like that dance too. I didn't talk about it. I think acting comes in handy in a lot of places in life. Especially like if you're in a position of sales and you've gotta sell something, I mean, that is a performance in and of itself. If you have to give public speeches, very little difference between giving a public speech in acting. To some degree. It's like you have a script, you have something you want to convey, and the depth of which you're going to convey is based on performance that you're about to give. I think that stuff is is really similar,

but maybe the most valuable thing and this is something I just holy believe is a human. Is this idea of fake it till you make it, no matter what you're doing like you fake it until you make it and you figure out the things you don't know along the way. But you need to come across an act as if you got it, and you know what you're doing. And there's a like, a functional performance that happens in fake it till you make it that I think that everybody does to some degree, and I think it's super valuable. Isn't this one of the hardest things in acting to become a character that is so unlike anyone you've pried you played before that people

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believe it. It's no different than trying to make people laugh, cry or anything. You just kind of do your best of whatever you're trying to do and be attentive to that character. And if people catch you acting, if they don't buy it, and if you don't give people chills and if you don't give people laughter, and if you don't evoke an emotion there,

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you probably didn't get the biggest compliment you can give an actor is I couldn't tell that you were acting, Uh, always. That's the biggest contract. I couldn't I didn't see you acting. You just were That's like the greatest compliment that

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you could give. So just bring it back to, like, everyday life, everyday people. What are some of the techniques that we could use to act quote unquote in our life? So, for instance, facial expressions, I think that's interesting. Malcolm Gladwell talks about this in his recent book, Talking to Strangers. Just Got It. Did You Read

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it? Don't Listen to it. He actually rodeo. But there's a fascinating thing in

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there. It actually profiles Friends, the TV show, and you could watch it on mute and still understand the story and every episode based on the facial expressions alone.

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This was the first time I've ever heard this, and he talks a lot about how the facial expressions are so much more accentuated than they are in real life and particularly talks about surprise that when people think of what of surprised face looks like in everyday life, it's actually never the open mouth kind of Oh my

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God, Look, mine

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is most people don't make that face, because on TV you have to make that face to convey

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the emotion line. Really, is that like, I think that I must be a Muppet like I think that I live life like a TV show. I think you have. You have high facial expression. Totally. I'm very open. Look, I don't try to hide. I'm not like I. It's like I just Do you feel like you're tampering down your facial expressions? No,

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every day, Probably like cerebral like like sometimes I don't even vocally respond like we were in the car this morning. She said something, and I was thinking about what she said, and she's like, Are you not gonna talk to me? And I'm like,

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No, I said,

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Did you not hear me? Yeah, You said, Did you not hear what I was like? No, I heard you. I'm thinking about what you said and you're like, Well, say something. I like little face of records, and I don't make a vocal recognition that somebody has spoken because I'm being cerebral, probably too cerebral about.

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He's very logical,

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Whatever has been said, and I wantto be sure that I'm fully processing what's been said and that my response is an elevation or according to that, find that and with full recognition of all of the emotionality of whatever was being said.

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Do you think when you're acting you amp up your facial expressions.

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Is it something you consciously you're thinking about your face? You're fucked.

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Like I think you're trying too hard. Then you'll never be. I don't think you'll ever be successful if you're like this is what I'm gonna look like when I'm angry. And this is what I look like when I'm happy. I remember,

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like early days were like 2 70 show you like when you do a play, it's only one take, right? You're just kind of like pulling forward on instincts. When you do a show or something that you have take two, we have to go do it again and you've already done it. And now you like, I know what you're gonna do or you're trying to do it again the same way or whatever. I remember a moment of like thinking about what my hands were doing, and it was just a disaster, like everything was a disaster from that point on, like you can't in daily life, you're not thinking unless you're being super self conscious in a scene, and then maybe you are thinking about what your hands are doing, but you're Nobody's that self conscious all the time that they're thinking about what their faces making or their hands or anything like that. It just has to come out of the emotion that you're having. I think that the number of takes that you end up doing and said,

Come acting gives you an advantage over time. No, Well, you do the scene, You might do a scene 25 times in one day, And so on the 25th time that you're doing it, it needs to feel like the first time it's ever happened. And that's the trick. So it sounds like in terms of emotion, what you said earlier is actually much more important, which is, Can you like, embody it and feel it in your whole being. That's

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what comes out. But there are times okay. Do you guys know what rbf iss resting bitch face? Yes, which a lot of people just naturally do. Or having it doesn't mean they're in a bad

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mood. I mean, I will say that like sometimes like we'll go out So, like, I'm pretty, like, socially awkward in, like parties or dinners or things like that. Life and life in general and I will go out into a dinner or a thing that I'm the same way about it. And I will I will have

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to be like, Hey, how's it going with the real baby smile, baby, I'm the same way. The one thing. And I love my husband. Okay. I like honestly say, like I love him and I know him. Okay. The first impression that he provides strangers is one off disinterest. Complete discontent like Charlie s. Yes, 100%. And but he's also a big boy. He's six foot three,

so he's instantly like just, you know, it makes people very uncomfortable. I don't like your presence is not inviting. We just, like, look like you're happy to be here like smile. And this is a whole I think he's like a sweet, sweet guy. He just doesn't want to be social. And we're working on that. Look at that face. He's a good guy. Hey, Dave does this too. He kind of speaks monotone sometimes. So he does the same. Which brings me to voice and think voice intonations. I think everyone could use some voice intonation. I could probably use less,

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and I just have different approaches. That light way come into this world with a certain number of words that we get to speak when they run out, We die S

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o I want to

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utilize my words to ask really good questions to draw out really valuable insights that over time we

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have a greater I made a new friend this year. Oh, please. One other acting techniques. I took improv in college. For one thing that I did yes, I have done more acting training than Mu uh, so we learned about yes. And so you're always building on the conversation of what's happening. Is this something you

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use? No. So a friend of mine actually brought a really good point, which is when you're in a conversation. If you're going to say something in response to somebody else, it should be a 10 x response to what was just said. And if you don't have a 10 x response in building and value in what you're saying versus what was previously said, then you probably shouldn't say anything or you should change the subject.

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What's an example?

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Well, based on any conversation that you're having, right? Like if I'm gonna bring up a topic like mold skins. Right now, we've got this great mole skin. Now, the next thing you could say

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is did you know the

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company? Mole skin was started in 1928 by a guy who actually didn't, you know, whatever. I don't know when it was started, but like you actually build on the topic of mole skins. And then if you've gotten to the point, what? And then the next thing could be Have you seen the new mole skin that actually has the pen where you get it converts it digital images through this shit spots a mole skin t check Thio send you. But ultimately, the next thing you get said has to be information that is that much more valuable to me. That is the yes, and of a company.

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I feel like I do this and natural conversations with people, but you have

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normal. But you know people that don't

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do that Yeah. Yeah, and it's awkward,

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and it's not

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fun. Dave, can I just call you out? You think that in conversation you go? Yes. And or

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I don't say anything.

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Let's go off of that for a second. So unless it is a topic that is off intense interest

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to you, right? Did I contend

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X, then you 10 x But that interest is a is a narrow, narrow. Little has to hit. It has a this tiny area of interest and otherwise otherwise. For instance, I don't no, you go now and you make things awkward. And that's why I go smile this dinner and someone's like,

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Oh, boy, I think this

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is why we don't do it together. You're just air in the family law. She knows all the time. Break. Okay, if you hit an area that's not in this little zone with his own,

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What's not zone is the housewives of Beverly. So I'm not gonna

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partake in that conversation. Memorization, memorization, techniques. I've always wondered muscle how you do this. I think like, here's what I will tell you. My grandma

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convinced this is why I'm not an actor.

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No. Now there's many other reasons, you know, um, there's something that you can learn. I think you can practice memorization. I really, really, really Just because I look at my grandmother was 96 years old, 96 years old, her body is giving out on her but her mind every single day. She does crossword puzzles everyday studio every single day. She's just It's a muscle. You have to work if you don't work that muscle out ago, like, how do you even lines? Okay,

you have to memorize the whole scene. Well, hold on. I think first, you should figure out the way that you are as a person. Are you a visual person? Are I think that that kind of learn or you kind of learning your plays a huge part into memorizing I Because I know the type of learner I am, and I visualize the pain. I'm in my face in my head. I see the page and I can see the words on. And there's sometimes that I need, like, a trigger to remind me of something like, if it's Pacific Ward Ege that needs to have been like, there is something that goes like you kind of find a rhythm that's minimal. But in my mind, I've division the page in his mind. It's very different. So first you have to realize what kind of learner you are.

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I personally I break down. I'll look it like a paragraph or something like that. What is the point that you're trying to convey, And then what are the supporting arguments to what it is that you're trying to give it? So then you generally know the idea that you're trying to get across, and then the words tended to be there. If you've read it a couple times, the words were just you use those words to convey that point. And then, if there's like a list or something like that, you can tie it toe. You know, the same way that you do basic memorization techniques like you have this cup and you go, Okay, there's the lid, and I give tie something to the lid and I get tied something to this little lever. They call that memory palaces.

You build a house in your head. Yes, you can. Or you go to the house that you grew up in right, and it's like the door knob is tied to one thing. Do you tie like an entire line to the door knob? Or I know only if there's like a sequential list of things like, you know, we need to go to the grocery store and pick up that that that that

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that dot I memorize it with the story. So if there's like we have to go to the grocery store and pick up milk, bread and eggs, I have to be like, Well, clearly, milk has to be first cause you go to the freezer aisle first, refrigerator all. Then you go into the egg because of in the same ill on the national debt. Oh, so have to create a logical story of the list, and you do that with your lines. Is that was actual line? That's for lists. There's a lot rattling anything off God, regimes or list or anything that's super specific

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in a specific order. Interesting. So there's a different stream lists in lines and sort of contextual.

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Was you having conversation?

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Yeah, the way. Yeah, Most of it's just reacting to what the person said. And generally, if you're in character, it's just the way you

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would react to that. A lot of times, your line would then kind of have a call like What are you doing? I'm doing nothing. Seems like there's always like there's a call back, just whatever accu kind

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of a line that you really can't remember oftentimes means it's not written. Well,

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writers write an interesting to this, rolling their eyes, but it doesn't feel like it's right.

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Yeah, it doesn't feel like you would characterize that in response to what just got sudden.

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Yeah, but is it is your sexy get anyway, So you better make sense of it. Yeah, when you're meeting. And if you were to meet, like, 15 people, you walk into a room and they all put say their name. Don't know a single one of you don't know their names awful with names. They can't memorize people's names to save my life. I don't know names. Okay, now, one. But I'll tell you, I've seen you before about you know,

faces because your visual superficial. What other acting techniques are there? Like, What are things that you guys have had to learn to embrace us? So we talked about facial expressions, voice into nations? Yes, And memorization techniques, I think be present. But I don't think you can learn that. Like I think that sometimes people go in overthinking it like I think confidence maybe. No, just do your homework and then go in and be present. Do all the homework in the world. Do all your research. Read your lines.

Think about the wise. Don't Did your character go with who you are and then just show up and be present and be open because the truth is in any given situation, you can't predict what the other person's gonna do. So in order to be like, what? I'm gonna walk to the right and then I'm gonna react, shocked or upset. But what if that character that's working opposite you doesn't give you the same performance than you look like A ridiculous,

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You know? Yeah, that works for Relational going with, like, a like a rigid plan, because it's probably gonna change, you know, it's sort of like, yeah, remember what book I was reading? But there was a whole thing about like when Martin Luther King gave the I had a dream speech. That I had a dream wasn't even in the speech, but he got on stage and somebody in the crowd said, Tell him about the dream Martin tell about the dream, and that became that one day. That's the speech. And when you go in, you don't know what? The director could change the whole thing. So if you go in with a rigid plan of what you're gonna d'oh, it's about potentially

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it also be over minded what your surroundings give you, right? Like I think, be open to whatever environment you're in. That college might be like, really great to sit on you, whatever it is, right leg. Just stay open to being adaptable. And that's something that everyone could use. Yeah, I mean that that's that's the part of it that really drives with everyday life, right? Like you don't know what's gonna happen next. Don't anticipate. My name is Rosalyn Sanchez, and my name is Eric Winter.

How are you, Eric? I'm doing good. That was really good pronunciation. Roselyn Sanchez. We have a podcast together. I'm the he said, and I am the age of the ho. It's called. He's at a radio, you know, was the meaning of Asia from a Jedi who she said, You're so smart, he said. She said He said She said, He said that He said I did it.

And why do we talk about something that I'm smart about, knowing that a little bit so What do we talk about it? Talk about what? We don't agree on what we totally opposites. That's what we talk about. Oh, are we pretty much on everything. Okay. The important question is, Do you like me? I love you. Way. Agree on things. Well, that's a problem then, because that doesn't happen too often.

So you don't love me, Kevin. I love you a lot. It's just the timing of it anyway. Listen. So he said, I got the on the I heart radio app on Apple podcast or Don Kia Rocco. Status is scorching, podcast said in English, Hittite or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, queen back to parenting for a bit. So we both have young kids. Um, we both are trying to entertain them and be parent them a cz Your point. So So first of all accents because we're talking about this.

I I have a British accent. Sometimes with our kids. It's Dr Britney Spears axes spears for your party, warned her. It was like going t o think. Hopefully, hopefully you go later, baby. How was I supposed to know? But here's the thing to your poise when I start singing and I go into character. I sort of get what your singing is. Scripted, humble. You could play a character when you sing, and I feel like this is a parent trick. Liketo have some sort of a false identity. Make sure kids think that you're, like, make believing with them,

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realizing in real time that I actually feel like I'm not good at it. And so that's why I don't do it.

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You should just let yourself, but that's your version of not good.

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Your kids will know. I know I'm calling myself out in real time that, like

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you think

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you're brilliant and maybe you're just judging yourself. Yeah. No, I am not saying that at the very thing that you have to let go off yourself. Judgment. I hadn't even thought of that until just

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now. Well, you're welcome. So I have an ask. I brought something, but you might know of. It's called Goodnight Moon and I was broke, and I think each of you should read it. I want to hear how you would read it and like your most expressive voice. Oh, goodnight, Moon. Really quietly. Okay, that's fine. What is the character of how you read. Good night, Moon. Go. Do you wanna go? Going to taste

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my pain? Yes, sure. Okay. In the great green room there was a telephone and a red balloon and a picture of

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the cow jumping over the moon. And there were three little bears sitting on chairs

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and two little kittens and a pair of mittens

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into little toy house. And the young mouths

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and a comb and a brush and a bowl full of mush.

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And a quiet old lady who was whispering. Hush. Goodnight room, kid. Night moon. Goodnight.

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Cow jumping over the moon.

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Good night. Light and red balloon. Good night bears and goodnight chairs. Good night, kittens. Goodnight, Mittens. Goodnight clocks and good night socks. Good night, little house in Good night, little mouse. Good night comb and goodnight brush.

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Goodnight. Nobody.

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Good night Must and good night to the old lady Whispering good night stars Not air. Good night noises everywhere. Well, more like when you're reading Are you getting into like a character? Do you think about it? Are you Paddington Bear? I felt bad for Paddington. Yeah, I

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do it with the pepper pig books. I do it There's some books. I do it in some books that

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I don't do. You make up stories just in general. Without books. Well, he's really

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good at every night. I tell a story from

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real life. You can't imaginary stories. So from well, she now knows everything about us. I mean little. She'd tell me a story from your life and you're like, All right, let me think about a story. When I was eight years old, Uncle Mike and I, we went like And so she's always She's asked questions all the time about all of our like when we

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were little. It's a much deeper Well, then the tell me an imaginary

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after while you run out of stories. So he has to go and start creating stories from real life because you little story,

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because then I mean, I told her I thought this girl who sat in front of me in second grade was a mermaid,

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and now she thinks mermaids Ariel way had to stop. The more may talk because she's like I explained to school with a mermaid. But back before, tell me a story from your life. It was Tell me a story Yeah, and that it always has to have a morning. They were like, full house. Okay. Like we have to have a a learning curve in there. Maybe like Jesse. Like, I think he's Jesse. You usually Jesse, um, are all the stories have? And then lately,

I will say, I think we're in Spain on this one. If there's, like, a learning lesson of the day like if if one of the kids didn't do something that, you know, like a lonely widow, it gets interjected into the story of my life. And so they know that, you know, when I was little and Uncle Mike took morning train, I got so upset, I didn't know what to do.

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Like last night. I told this story because, you know, when she was playing soccer and she got really upset, Christine, we should wait. And I told the story about how when I played basketball against the neighbors and lost for, like, months on end, and then

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yeah, there's always, like, a learning

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lesson today. Yeah, I was like, there's a whole thing about leadership and, like, how I used to get really mad at my brother because he wasn't playing good enough. And I would tell him you're not doing a good enough job. And then in the one time that we won, every time he did something good, I told him that he did something good. And then he played better and better and better. And then we won.

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Our stories are like after school lesson. Okay? Have you ever had to act to get out of a speeding ticket? Yeah. I can tell you this story for sure. 100% have a really good story. I was 16 because I must have just had my driver's license. So you have, like, 16. 17. I was speeding. It was right around the corner. My parents house where I still lived. So I can tell exactly what was It was on Sweetzer and like will it be? I know that a stop sign And I know I didn't stop like theirs. Of course it is.

And I rolled the stop sign. Yeah, and I probably started going with third speed limit is, like, you know, whatever 10 miles an hour. Then I was probably going 20 miles an hour and ah and I got pulled over and I was like, Oh, my God, I I'm gonna get into trouble If I get a ticket, I got no manageable. And so I'm telling a story. Um, I start crying tears just tears, and I noticed was a male cop. And I was like,

Okay, I can work this e feel awful saying this story and no, I don't I don't condone this, and no one should do. This male cop comes over, I put my window down and my comes. Those are any full tears. Yeah. So, Matt, Hormonal 16. But was this real? Tears are five meters. I can I can put on a show. Okay, So this was Victor's.

Well, but But looking, really, I know that song environment. And then I proceeded to tell him that I was on my period. I've done this, okay? And I need to get home. I'm bleeding everywhere, and I don't know what to do. And my parents love right there, and I just need to get home. I'm just bleeding. And and I kept saying this in the sweet, poor cop was like, 00 okay.

Just you know what? You're old enough to know what to do. So next time, just be more prepared. You can go now. I love it. That was it. And I just get the ticket. I find out that ticket. Yeah, that was only time. But it's about creating sympathy, right? Equated it. Really? Well,

I think acting could be useful in creative. So I got out of AA. What, like a $50 didn't get in trouble either. And I've been running late for a flight before.

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David, I like I've never been able to use the period

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that anything you condone this same. But it's in the very bottom of the pocket. If you have to reach down there, it's just something that happened a couple times in life. I'm on my period. I've also to do it to cut the line at the airport. Okay, The last thing we're gonna dio if you're down. Yeah, it's just a quick role play. Not in that form. Um, I'm gonna give you a promise. And you just give me, like, a 32nd version of how you would play this role. So the 1st 1 is for you.

Oh, Milla, you're an interviewee. Pitching for the job. Yeah, job. Let's say it's a marketing manager. Oh, and I'm trying to get you. I'm your man. I'm the hiring manager. Yeah. You're pitching me for the job. What's your closing statement after this hour long interview we've had? I used to know the backstory. My character.

Okay, You didn't go to college. You went to college. But like you've been out of work for a living, mom. Yeah, I'd be single. Yes. Obviously, you haven't really worked in a couple of years. But you were raising kids, and so you wanna get back in the workforce, Okay? And we just had an hour long interview. It was okay. What's your name?

My name is No, it is Kim Kim. Yeah. Okay. Do I have my son in the interview with me? Sure. Okay. Do would you bring your son to the interview? I'm hungry. I think this is way ahead of one of those lollipops after we leave. Oh, honey, honey, just one second. I'm so sorry. He's just really hungry, you know, we're just We're strapped for cash, so that that that is why I'm here. So I'm a very hard worker

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on ice cream. Roasted cod.

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I'm really I'm a hard worker. I'm committed to the company. Was this company again? Um, Brett Industry. I'm committed to Britt Industries

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Industries. You said this was this nap. I want my pecan ice

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cream. Honey. Stade Alain, honey, look sad and be quiet way duet for day care as a That's amazing. I mean, I'm cheap. I come at a low cost. Um, I'm young, you know? I know howto use a spreadsheet and excel sheet. I know the Internets. I know how Thio face where Boone is going. Really? Well, I had to come.

Today's I stayed home and played my wig. What? I deal with a man. Look at this. Well, uh, can you Can you look at this home with this? I deal getting tough with you. I'll get in touch with you, man. You get in touch with you, I'm ready. So where's my god, ma'am? But there's an ice cream shop down the street. So when I have a job here and you

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cast me in your C i e

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n. I think I learned a lot from, um E did see some facial expressions and imagination. I don't know what accent it was, but it wasn't and you cried. You wait and left a little bit. So we're gonna wrap it there. Yeah, I think we're all headed out for some big guy. Screamed. You really like that ice cream? Yeah, that's your favorite ice cream. I think we've learned a lot about a lot of things, So thank you guys so much. It was amazing. Way had so much fun with Ashton and Mula.

We literally ended the episode in tears. I think the biggest takeaway for me was that letting down your guard to be more silly, free form and adaptable. And any situation is not only keep acting but key to being more human. Stop overthinking at people. And if you are over thinking it, just try taking it like you aren't. Thanks again. Ashton Manila. Thanks for listening to teach me something new. A production of I Heart Radio and Britain Co. I'm your host, Brit Morin. Sinister FIFA can find more information about each episode at Britt dot co slash Listen, You can also find me on social media at Britt and at Britain Co. A special shout out to my two co host and you can find on Instagram at Angelika Temple.

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