Ep 13: Bret Kugelmass, Managing Director at the Energy Impact Center

In this episode, I interviewed Bret Kugelmass, the Managing Director of the Energy Impact Center.

Out of all of the people I’ve met so far in my journey, Bret is the closet to my spirit animal - recovering technology entrepreneur looking to work on something more purposeful, concerned about climate change, deep dive into climate brought him to nuclear, more than 1200 discussions and 170 podcast episodes in nuclear to better understand it and get to know everyone, and now doing impactful work with the Energy Impact Center.

Bret put out some pretty bold, controversial viewpoints. I left the episode with mixed feelings. On the one hand, what if he is wrong? What kind of damage would it do if he succeeded in getting everyone to focus in this way, and it was misguided? But even worse, what if he is right? What if the only thing that can get us out of this pickle is nuclear, and we are otherwise spinning wheels and wasting valuable time?

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