Is it possible to outsmart Amazon this holiday season?

The Verge's Lauren Goode talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Jason Del Rey about the often secret calculations that go into the prices of what you buy online. As holiday shopping revs up, Del Rey says it's worth remembering that Amazon does not always have the best prices — though it may foster the illusion that it does. The trio also discusses how Amazon Prime might evolve in the future, why Apple Pay and Android Pay are safer than credit cards and why there's still hope for gamers yearning to buy an NES Classic.

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