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Special Episode: Virtual reality works for games. But what about real life?

Jeremy Bailenson, the director of Stanford University's Virtual Human Interaction Lab, talks with The Verge's Lauren Goode and Recode's Mark Bergen about how virtual reality can affect our bodies and our minds. A well-crafted VR experience, Bailenson says, feels intensely real — which can have both positive and negative side effects. Later in the show…

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