What will it take for Uber to change?

New York Times technology reporter Mike Isaac talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and The Verge's Lauren Goode about the controversies that have plagued Uber for the past two months. In a new profile of Uber CEO Travis Kalanick, Isaac reported that the company ran afoul of Apple's rules by keeping track of the iPhones on which Uber had been deleted and re-downloaded. The trio talks about whether Uber's culture will — or can — be reshaped at this point and why Kalanick is unlikely to lose his job, although Isaac predicts that some exec's head may be "on a pike" by the time the company's sexual harassment investigation is over.

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