everybody, This is Kelly Ft. And this is heating Shaw. And today, on the startup check, we're gonna talk about the brand new remote work report you like talking about more than your sales and marketing. We just wanna bullshit and Chet about business in life. And hopefully, while we're doing that for my long value to me the best for people trying to get shit way don't want to give you feedback. That's bullshit. You want you to do your best brought to you by no other than the Ogi heating Shaw and F y I you guys, I've been following this for good amount of time heating. You've been like tweeting like a madman asking the interweb ste for you knows the cuties Doc pictures. When they work remotely, their work set up all kinds of things, like really, really almost daily.

There's been, like some compelling question that you have had for the workers of companies that work remotely for the remote work. A community and I've been really impressed. The level of engagement, the level of feedback, answers. There's a lot of stuff going on. I'm sure you've published polls and surveys and all kinds of stuff and all of this knowledge is now accumulated into one pretty bad as report. So why don't you tell us a little bit about the report and then we'll highlight a few tip. It's for people. What can people learn about remote work in 2019? And where can they get a report to learn even more?

Yeah, So I yes, I did that, you know, and f y I I did that meeting all those tweets and it was so much fun. But I don't think I've ever had more fun creating content in my life because it was we asked about people remote work set up. So a lot of people share their photos of their setups. We ask people about cute pet photos. So we got 100 plus you Pat brothers to prevent our report. And we also did a survey, and we ended up being about almost 500 people that filled it out. And we learned a lot about remote work. We also partner with a company called Neuro and my r o dot com. They do like a collaborative white board. So that was fun. And you condone before I continue you can get the report. There's a bit Lee link that's a bit dot l y slash remote.

Report that easy and you can check it out. It's over 30,000 pixels in terms of height. It's really long. And one of the most fantastic thing steadily was that we actually got over 100 and 50 tips about remote warden. Okay, so it's like a whole directory of tips from people who work remotely, and they're like 13 different categories. So one of the key things we learned is that listen, I ended up being the title of the report, which is that everyone loves remote work and one last remote work. Yeah, that's it. That's it. I mean, that's like the big thing. And obviously there's challenges to it.

And so it was kind of interesting to learn that everyone loves remote work. Yet there are challenges to it and that it's interesting, right? Like like what we learned, and I'll get some stats. But basically it's like 91% of remote workers said working remotely is a good fit for that. 95% of remote workers would recommend working remotely to a friend. Mmm. And they said, Because they get to be close to their families near their pets. They get to pick up their kids and many other kind of reasons that are very personal like that. And it's crazy. It's like this thing. This remote work thing also likes even the name. Remote work is kind of weird. I think there's distributed work,

you know that people are doing and and in some demographics from our survey are that basically 60%. The people we surveyed said they work remotely 101 of the time and 70%. This was surprising to me. 70% remote workers have work remotely for three or more years. Wow. So it's not a new thing. We're just paying attention to it now. And it's got a lot more attention, you know, judging by even our tweets and the popularity of some of them, people love doing it. And you know, the big one here, in my mind that's we're talking about is that there's some actual challenges, and we learned about what those challenges are, and I'm gonna rattle them off.

But basically it's communication, socializing, loneliness and boundaries, and other reports have mentioned these challenges as well, and we go into them and explain kind of will be heard and a bunch of quotes from people about them. And, you know, we have this style of asking a lot of open ended questions, not just multiple choice. So we get a lot of rich information about what people are actually saying. So, you know, for all the promise of it and the tax people love it. The number one thing here is that, like, we have not really figured out how to deal with ourselves.

And that's my conclusion. We haven't figured out a deal with ourselves. We don't It's almost like remote workforces. Didn't even know yourself better because you goto you go to an office. You have a lot of structure, right? Yeah. Went went to get there. What meetings? Tohave. Well, when Tiu, uh, what to eat? A lot of the time you have ability to go to coffee with co workers, have ability toe,

have lunch with co co workers, even dinner sometime. You have almost a small social contract that gets built out for you. Well, if you're working remotely, there's probably nobody else in your area that works at the same company and you don't get Thio hang out with them. There is no casual, casual things going on the way you do in office. And then ultimately, basically, you know, if you're new to it, you stepped back like I have to figure out of structure. And I've never really have to do that before. He's even in school. You never had to do that, right?

Yeah, that's absolutely right. This is not so like this is something that took us a while to understand. Today I'm like, you know, I'm I It can reconfirms. I'll believes about remote work, But I remember in the beginning when we would interview people that wanted to work for clothes, which is a fully distributed team. Um, all those times gonna ask people why they're interested in remote work, they would tell me. Oh, you know, I love the idea of freedom. You know, the freedom to travel the freedom to move the freedom toe work whenever and wherever I want.

And to me, at the very beginning, I was like, Yeah, freedom. That sounds like a good reason to want this today. When somebody says freedom, I go, Whoa, whoa. Whoa, slow down. Let's talk about discipline. I come how much I'm like, How much of an adult are you? You know,

how do you What is your household apartment looking like? What are your habits? What are your structures? When was the last time you wanted to change something about your life And how did you do it? And how did you accomplish it? Because what we realized is that discipline really equals freedom to steal. Jackal willing is quote and that to do remote. Like my conclusion is that too be successful while working remotely in a company, you have to have a high level of self discipline, the discipline to design your work, life yourself in a way that is successful, which is the tough thing. Just like you said, Like offices. For all their downsides, the upside is that it's a work environment that is designed for you.

All you have to do is show up there and everything is reminding you of work. You know where to go, where to sit. What machine to use. You know, when the brakes are. You know who you're cornered like. A lot of things just happen because somebody else. The company has rented an office, furnished it and created kind of a work culture within that office that you just have to like, just walk into versus when you work remotely. Nobody's doing any of this for you. You have to do this for you, and that takes work, and that takes discipline. And it's not just,

you know, it's not just like, Oh, I could do anything. I want anything you want if you like. Discipline is a recipe for disaster and an ocean to drowning because you have so many options when you wanna work. If you're gonna you know where your pajamas so work from your bed or on the floor or at a desk, or we're in a coffee shop. Many, many options are only good if you have the discipline to make good choices, right to follow through on those charges, and I think that that's still a really big challenge

for a lot of people. Yeah, I love how you think about it. I love the idea of discipline and reframing it when people you interview people to be about discipline because, you know what I learned is that people do want the freedom. They really highly valued the freedom of remote work. But if they don't have the discipline, your they're screwed. Your screwed, too, as as a person who's hiring remote workers. Because when is that happening is that you have a whole bunch of people who are basically, you know, they're gonna have emotional problems giving were might work if they don't figure out their own stuff. And this isn't about company retreats and things like that. I know you folks love to do them, and we don't actually let's write a whole nother conversation. But you know, if you don't have discipline, you cannot do remote work. Successful is what it really both two.

All right, so there's a ton more tips, insides, numbers, trends. If you work remotely of you're interested in remote work. He didn't hit them up again with the Bentley link where they can get it and downloaded.

Yeah, I mean, it's really ridiculous. We put a lot of effort into it, and it is a very informative report is flushed with all the tips. It's not l live slash remote report, so it's our e m o t e r e p o R T. So it's bit down. Ally slash remote report and you'll be able to check out the whole report and you'll click in and you'll see you'll be able to get to the tips section and there's tons of tips to browse through and again, had a lot of fun writing it up and learned a lot. In fact, my cofounder Marie was taking point on a lot of content and look. Reading the tips has actually made her even more conscious about certain habits and certain things that she wanted to change about her own revolt, where and how she's doing remote work. So it was pretty awesome to see that as well, because, you know, change is hard. But if something we can influence people, Thio have that our motor cabinets on learn from this. That's what that's what we want.

That's that's amazing, amazing, so highly recommend you go and get that report and download that today. Right now. Quick, you know, inside baseball, you might. Some of these answers are definitely also close. Teammates that have responded to your tweet. I know that we had a few times somebody on the team sharing a Twitter link. And I know that a bunch of people definitely uploaded their their dog pictures on their office set up to you that are, like, close to members. You might see a pic from one of us. When the stats includes the close family, make sure to get the report And this is it for us, for the secretary will see you very soon.