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All-In podcast.

March 17, 2020

@Chamath & @Jason podcast duo discuss the world. Chamath thinks his vulgarity, candor, biting honesty and ludicrous statements needs more regularity, and Jason has a perfect voice for it.

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In their new podcast, All-In, Jason Calacanis and Chamath Palihapitiya are joined by their scientist friend David Friedberg, to talk about political, economic & social ramifications of the coronavirus. It's a great episode. Enjoy!

Updated on March 15

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Jason & Chamath intro David and check in on each other's quarantines and discuss directives & statistics, a potential covid19 treatment & policy changes that we need to have in order not to succumb to the Great Depression. Chamath explains the circumstances of recording a podcast while the Stock Market tanks in real-time and what it means for for startups & venture capital.

Updated on March 19

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0:01 Jason checks in on Chamath, Sacks & Friedberg, opening up their social circles, outdoor activities & more
9:31 Issues with politicizing matters of public health, deaths decreasing while new cases spike, masks, lockdowns & more
20:56 Viral videos, doxxing bad behavior & cancel culture
25:39 Reforming law enforcement, separating police from the military, changing police incentives
36:42 Are public unions too powerful? How a lack of leadership has led us here
41:49 Facebook vs. Twitter on free speech, Zuckerberg's relationship with Peter Thiel, valuing comfort over freedom of expression
59:24 John Bolton's book controversy
1:03:14 Movements in the COVID vaccine space
1:07:38 Trump vs. Biden: Who has the upper hand?
1:14:24 Who should Biden pick as VP?

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0:01 Jason & Chamath intro David Sacks & David Friedberg
1:15 Everybody gives their quarantine update: Sacks is in Mexico while running Craft remote, Chamath got a new poker table & is excited for shelter-in-place to end, Friedberg is getting back into a rhythm
8:04 Chamath & Sacks reflect on the coming return to normalcy & politicization of the virus
12:41 Sacks on 3 major data-driven discoveries about the virus
15:54 Friedberg on fatality rate data, overestimating the lockdown's impact on stopping the virus
19:32 Getting back to work
21:05 Chamath on the stock market not reflecting the economy, Sacks on what an economic recovery might look like
28:00 Friedberg on potential of another NYC-level outbreak, Chamath on negative impact of left/right culture war
34:05 Sacks on democratic hesitation to end lockdowns giving Trump a strategic advantage, Friedberg on Hydroxychloroquine's benefits/risks
37:57 Sacks on potential resorting of the Bay Area & Silicon Valley due to remote work
41:51 Chamath on benefits of working remote, why San Francisco might lose large numbers of people
45:18 Tesla/Fremont situation a microcosm for politicization of the pandemic, benefits of people starting to distrust inept bureaucrats
49:33 Chamath on the beginning of the modern Cold War, dealing with market conditions considering China's standing in the world, ideological issues
53:46 Sacks on US/China relationship, how US can penalize China
59:25 Friedberg on how US can leapfrog China in manufacturing by using modern, automated solutions

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0:01 Jason & Chamath catch us up on their quarantines
1:20 Chamath intros David Sacks
4:40 David explains what their poker group chat has been like since COVID-19 started, and how Jason, Chamath & himself fall on the optimistic/pessimistic spectrum
6:58 How have the past few months defined David's view on the world, and what is his reaction to the US government's response?
12:22 Did the US health apparatus do its job? How could it improve? Why aren't masks already mandated?
19:33 Culture clash between scientific experts & entrepreneurs, thoughts on Chloroquine as a treatment method
27:00 Are US bureaucrats taking the intelligence of US citizens for granted? How liable is Trump?
30:08 David gives his plan to reboot the economy: what now? How does the US avoid a recession/depression?
36:22 Chamath & Jason assess David's plan
43:21 Have the stimulus packages & SMB loans been enough? Will the trickle-down approach work?
49:21 Should the US be allowing companies to declare bankruptcy? How should they decide who gets aid and who does not?
52:02 Chamath explains how corporate debt works through the lens of Ford
56:42 Why is the US not giving a larger % of the stimulus to average Americans? Chances of unrest if quarantine continues?
1:02:17 Trump vs. Biden: who has the edge in 2020 right now?
1:11:24 Was Jack Dorsey's $1B donation the strongest move of 2020 so far?

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0:01 Jason intros Chamath and Episode 0 of All-In and they discuss their current self-quarantine
0:55 Jason intros David Friedberg
1:35 Chamath gives the inaugural (& potentially final) All-In ad read
2:17 As a Warriors owner, Chamath gives his reaction to the NBA postponing & uncoordinated actions of government & private sectors
4:37 Why was the US so slow to react on both an individual & governmental level? What did the OpenTable data show?
9:03 David explains the actions he would take if he was president
12:37 Thoughts on Trump’s private sector involvement
16:58 Has the press failed in its coverage, or are they just feeding people what they want?
23:52 What will the next few weeks in the US look like? Why has the virus spread severely in Italy, but not yet in India?
37:20 How the COVID-19 viral coefficient compares to the early days of Facebook’s numbers
40:26 Chances of Trump testing positive for the virus? What effect would that have on markets?
48:53 What should we do differently next time?
53:13 Will there both more deaths due to second order effects of the virus than direct deaths?
1:01:06 Should there be a global stimulus package? Effect of low-volatility during recent bull run?
1:11:26 Chances of a quick resolution?
1:16:48 How are Jason & Chamath advising their portfolio companies? How are IPO’s of companies like Airbnb & DoorDash being effected?
1:21:17 How to approach the next year in startups & VC?

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