Will Ferrell (LIVE SHOW)

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Yeah.

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You know, we had a, one of our favorites on, Dana, Will Ferrell.

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Yes, he was, so delightful. Really fun hanging out with him.

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One of the top, top All time. Lorne

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Michaels said top two. Yeah. As we discussed.

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And then, you know, I believe it. I, I think that one of the guys that consistently makes me laugh hard over the years, from SNL to the movies to everything he does,

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and

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he's so successful. Everything was really clicking on all cylinders. we had a blast with him. And, he was as advertised. He was funny. He was charming. He, we told some funny stories. I actually told one story that I was going to tell you that the point of this goofy story I told about being on a, a drama I did was really just saying how the special effects people were so professional.

Cause I was sort of making fun of the whole situation. But the bottom line was, he was very cool. And you'll hear the story. But,

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cause you'll hear the story.

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Yeah, you'll hear the story. But you gotta hear the story. I'm making fun of me.

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It's a very funny story. David didn't act out. David didn't act out. It was very funny. And Will went with it. But so, you know, we, we dug into some stuff. We got Will to really, tell us some cool stories about Norm. I, I would stay tuned for those.

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Those are great. we talked

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about his... Cause Norm was in

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jeopardy with him, and that's how that whole thing started.

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Yeah, and at SNL and stuff. And, we, we got some other details about Cowbell, which is everyone's favorite sketch, and the walking of it all, and the origin of that. Dug

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into Anchorman. That's

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very cool.

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Elf.

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And his nerves, you know, it was interesting to hear him open up just about his trajectory to superstardom. And,

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we overlapped one year, and Dana, obviously, had just taken off. So he talked about that dynamic between all three of us and how we knew each other and I had met him before in a weird place and so I just thought that was just a big home run. I really had a fucking blast with him. And our

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overlap meter, I checked it after the show, was only at thirty three percent as far as interrupting him when he was on a roll.

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Really good. I got itchy at the end so I did it on purpose but Cause I know the audience loves it.

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They love when we interrupt. They love when we wear sunglasses

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and we interrupt people. but let's, get,

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well, I just want to mention one thing, you cut it or not, but because it's Will Ferrell, we had a lot of people outside. Oh, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They're not, they're more than autograph seekers. That's 1957. They don't even like

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us, by the way.

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They're just like collecting baseball cards. They're very, passionate. Usually I'll stop. There'll be ten or fifteen. I drive up, there's three hundred people in the alley. Okay. So I'm parked way down, and just to get into the theater, it was like a spy mission. How did you get in?

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we were, Heather and I were, I, I ran into Heather on the street. She was parking, so she jumped in, dropped me in the front, which is a great trick, and they know my car. She parked it, and when she got back, she saw Will. Will was getting slammed, and then you got the worst of it when you left, cause you went out the front, and I went out the back at the end.

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Well, I went out the side door, and I had someone with me from the theater. Did not want. So he goes, you want to front? Go back cause there's a special side door. We climbed up a ladder and went down a sewer. They have

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drones. They're like, we're climbing out. Split them up. Spades in back car.

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I'm on the corner and I don't know what's happening to you or Will and I'm thinking this guy we're going to walk down to my car about to cross the street. They see me and it's like zombies swarming and they start and they start. So suddenly I'm enveloped. I can't see or hear.

And then the other guy starts going shut the fuck up man. Shut the I was at a comedy show three minutes ago. Shut the fuck up. I can't move. Meanwhile I said to everyone Spade is so happy right now because you actually da da honking your horn. I drove by and took a picture of me

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in the middle of the scrum. So cause I'm in the back and they're like signing and Will was saying too he goes what's all the clear plastic and you have to use a different pen for everyone. What the fuck is going on? Yeah you

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have to sign and they got

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Kuzco and they got anything from a poster to this and so you're signing and they also all hate me they just are like sign You goddamn machine robot, and then if we get Sandler to sign the grown-ups and you and Schneider. So I'm signing a few, and then whenever you stop, they go, what the fuck? And they go, my kid needs one. I go, all right.

And they, your biggest fan. Little girl looks at me and I go, what movie do you like? Who the fuck are you? Hey, easy now. She lost. It's kind of mob

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like they, they put drum heads for a kick drum in front of you. Cause one time, cause I was bored in Minneapolis or something, I drew a Garth picture. So I'm drawing and signing and signing, and I did sign your name a few times. I'm signing, sign, sign. And then one of our producers, Charlie, says, come with me. So we went down the street, come on, go.

And they're all following us and it's just crazy. This is so funny at this time in my career. I was at mobs like this during Wayne's World. And then we had to go around the neighborhood and ditch him. Are they down? I was in the back. He's not here. We found my car. Maybe look like

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Charlie's being eaten by them. Go,

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just go. Tell my Oh, I loved her. So I got in the car and I saw another guy getting out, more zombies getting out with bobbleheads. Here they come. Charlie pulled up, kind of blocked him. Then I'm flooring it away. I broke the speed limit on the way home. I came in, put the gate code in. Running with a bobblehead like this, looking behind myself.

Yeah.

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They signed baseball. I don't even know what's going on. I go, they think I'm Hank Aaron.

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So anyway, besides. So anyway, besides. Well, I think they are like baseball collectors. By the way, we love you guys. It was just a little bit too much. We like the fans. We love the passion. But it was just too much. But the ones that no

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matter how many we sign, they scream at the end. So it's like, whatever. Anyway, Will was taken aback. But the show was really good.

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You got to listen to this. We're the biggest

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assholes. We sound like Prince Harry. Yeah, maybe we should cut this

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out.

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No, we love it. They love it. They love it. We're real people. We're two fucking assholes. We're real people

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and fragile. I got bumbled around. But anyway, Will Ferrell was one of our all-time favorites. So that was so cool to get him at the live theater. Enjoy.

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Here it is. At Largo. Dana and Dana, Dana and Dave,

were just a

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fly on the wall down the hall of SNL.

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SNL,

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SNL, SNL, Dana

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and Dave.

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They got it, they know. Thank you. Hey, Dana.

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That was Jimmy Fallon on our podcast, got an acoustic guitar and made up that theme song as Neil Young. So,

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yeah.

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Now, can we play it again? Okay.

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Listen, let's, let's, get. Thanks for

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coming. Let's get

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our buddy out here. We got a good crowd. They know the show. They know Largo. And they're, they've been waiting. They just heard the Gettysburg Address read to them. So, they're excited. There are a lot of rules. Ready for some jokes. I talked to this guy backstage, and he's not really on tonight. But you know what? Dana and I are going to cover for him.

We're

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going to, he's going to come in the hot seat. That's what it is. He's one

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of the, I hate to say, all-time greats, first ballot Hall of Famer, John William Farrell. Here he is from SNL. Another son. Yeah. I know.

All right, a little more applause than we got, but who cares? There he is, I'm gonna go all sideways. I'm kinda in front of you.

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Willis Sibilance.

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Did you like they got my chair from a fucking yard sale? I

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was like, that chair was put together like 15 minutes ago.

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I'm getting a better, I'm getting a worse, okay.

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This is a good angle too.

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I

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know, it's weird. So

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Will, when did, were you impressed when you first met me? If

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If

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I lay back enough, I can catch both of you guys.

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I can't even see you with that. I

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said, come on, he's not that tall. Get him a five foot eight seat. Now he's got a bad back.

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Listen, I remember the night I got spinal bifida. I was at Largo.

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Spinal who? Oh, that was a great heavy metal band from the seventies.

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So, listen, we got time for one more.

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When was the last time you heard a spinal bifida reference? I don't

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know. I just think, I just said it, and then I felt like it's mean because it's like. It's

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very Dennis Miller. Spinal bifida, okay? The starting linebacker for the Detroit Lions, all right?

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Also, too, if anyone's worried, I brought my wallet. I don't know why.

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Look at how fat it is, you rich.

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Yeah, that's a fatty. That's

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a movie star wallet, right?

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That's just from Elf. You

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carry cash? I still

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carry cash. You never know. Yeah. There's gonna be a fun giveaway tonight. Cash! I'm just handing out cash. I

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didn't know there's an ATM here.

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Here's spinal

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biffa tonight in the auditorium.

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Would you like some gum?

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Gum and get some.

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You don't have to have it, I'm just going.

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Is it a trick? Is it a trick? No,

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it's

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nothing. Dana, all kidding aside, let's get to, the serious

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questions. Let's see, where you like, where I'd like to start. Yeah.

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Hold

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on.

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I know, I can't see you at all, but it's okay. I know. I'm

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gonna do this. You mind

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holding it?

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Yeah, I don't mind.

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Thank you.

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I feel like, yeah, this is more Tony Bennett kind of. The best is yet to come, and I feel fine. Didn't you do Tony Bennett on the show?

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I did not. Oh. Anyway.

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Anyway.

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Let's go to questions. Robert Goulet. I did Robert Goulet.

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Robert Goulet. What did he sound like? Alec

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Baldwin did Tony Bennett. That's

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right.

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He did a great Tony Bennett.

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okay. No,

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I did Robert Goulet.

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Bob.

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Bob Goulet. And he just had a very deep voice and referenced his appearance in Camelot.

Camelot. and we just write him in weird scenarios. I think he did a, a rap album with Jay-Z. We did a sketch with Jay-Z.

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Yeah,

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and we, he, we also did a, a bit where it was Robert Goulet's musical called Red Ships of Spain, where he didn't realize he was making out with his daughter, his real life daughter,

Anna Gastar played his daughter at, played his, his love interest in, in Red Ships of Spain, it turns out was his daughter the whole time.

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You can't write this stuff. Oh, you did write this stuff. Okay. well, let's go back to the beginning. Will,

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let's go back to the beginning. Can I do a childhood chunk to get us all warmed up?

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Oh, okay. Cause I want

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to take Will to ten years of age. That far back? Okay. That's here. Okay.

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But hold on. I just want to say,

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yeah,

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it's a pleasure to be here.

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Thank you. Thank

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you.

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Great to be here, you guys.

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Very nice. Thank you.

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Dana Carvey, one of my all-time favorites. You

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can't tell me. Great.

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Sketch players of all time. David, you did stuff too that was interesting. But.

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Thank you, Will.

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You're on the Mount Rushmore.

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We're, yes. We're going to the after party together.

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Spade. Little train that could, you know.

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I keep the Charlie Hustle

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Award every year at the banquet. They give it to

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Spade.

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And

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Charlie Brown, you

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always know

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for

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him.

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But in all honesty, Dave was, you were still with the show when we all got hired, and you were, you were like a big brother to us. You kind of showed us the ropes. Yep. And,

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We had a year overlapping.

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A year overlapping. You were super cool to me, especially, to all of us. Took me to dinner multiple times, hung out, gave us words of wisdom, advice. Do you remember one

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time I invited you over to the Upper West Side to have lunch, and then I ate before you got there?

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Yeah.

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Isn't that funny? Isn't that funny? Why I remember that. Yeah, but you

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always eat before you leave work. I know, but he wasn't

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even late. It was not even his fault. I just, it was weird. I don't think

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I was late at all. No, I wasn't.

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It was my fault. but that was just, maybe I was nervous. It's like who's eating

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a meal when you walk in?

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I guess, I think I was finished.

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And I used to Back, wait, sorry, what?

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No, no, no, okay.

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Back in the days where I was thinking, do I want to get into comedy? Can I even get into comedy? Do I even have the guts to even try this stuff? I would go to open mic night at the Irvine Improv.

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Oh, I love that place.

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And, almost get the guts to sign up, but sit in the back of the house and just watch the comedians and, and go. Oh, I'm funnier than them. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Oh,

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I'm funnier than... no, not that guy. That guy's really good. But, but, you hosted one. I watched you host Open Mic. And, next thing I know, you're on SNL, and

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you're like, what the fuck? I was like,

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really? I guess...

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Well,

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then anyone can get on SNL.

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I thought you were

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super funny and relaxed. I was like, oh, man.

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You know, when I saw you on SNL and you guys, Farley, Sandler, those kind of guys, that whole team that I was with left one year, I heard they got fired. I did not know they got fired. Did you hear that?

I heard they got fired. I want to

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meet the guy who fired Farley and Adam Sandler. They gotta go! There's nothing there.

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No more gas in the tank.

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Chris.

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Yeah.

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Nothing there. I was like, Chris, come to my office and clean your locker.

but we, well, I stayed an extra year, which I don't know if that was good or bad, but I stayed, and then I think maybe you and Sherry Oteri and, maybe Molly, they all came in, and the first show that you did, cause I felt like sort of went to college but came back and sat on the wall in high school, like I sh- I should've just left with everybody.

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Right.

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But I stayed and did like, I had five minutes a week to do my own thing. You want some more

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glory.

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But, yeah, a little bit.

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Yeah.

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I was milking it.

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Yeah.

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Something to the kitty. So then I said, okay, I think the first show you did that I remember, you did Get Off the Shed. Is that, is that true? That's true. The first show.

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Yeah.

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And that was, one I didn't know, I didn't know your audition, I didn't know anything, and I thought, this guy's got some fucking game. Because it was such an oddball, didn't see it coming, didn't know where it was going sketch, and then I think, did you think it- It's what I

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auditioned with, actually. You

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did get off the show to audition? Yeah, yeah. Because I saw, I saw a clip of, you doing the cat.

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Yeah.

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And, maybe that's sort of a viral clip, but- To dead

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silence. Am

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I crazy? It was si- it didn't do well.

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No, no, it was,

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I was literally- What was the cat one again? Just- It was just

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a guy in his office who was like, there- You didn't give it much setup. No, there's no, there's no setup. I want to know

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what played to silence. So listen to Mike Michaelson there. Have you got anything else? Can you pull this out?

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Well,

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we- we've heard the shed thing, but is there something else?

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You're in 8H.

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Yeah.

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With a spotlight on you.

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Horrifying.

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No one else in there except Lauren in the back smoking a cigarette, just his little ember of a cigarette.

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Holding that- A tipperillo.

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Yeah, a tipperillo.

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It's funnier when you say it.

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And- And the premise literally was, I think there was a table and a chair and a phone, maybe a prop phone, and it was like, please, hold all my calls. And then I just started playing with cat toys.

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Like an adult on the ground, like hitting a toy like that. Yeah.

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And then the secretary would buzz again, and I'm like, yeah, tell them, I'll call them back in 20 minutes, and then I go back on the ground. But it was to dead silence.

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I, I was shocked.

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And I remember thinking in my head, like, well, this is going to be a really good story when I go back to LA. And they're like, what happened? I'm like, well, I, I, I thought that would be funny to play with cat toys on the ground. They're

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like, wait, you did that in your audition? You're like, no, it was funny. I thought. Yeah, well, the

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guy who fired Sandler and Farley loved it. He loved it.

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That's. Now

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that's comedy. Because the guy doesn't play with cats. I think I may have been walking a little bit, sorry.

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It was cat toys, he like lays on the ground and bats around like a piece of yarn and plays with it like that. And very funny, and I was watching it, cause it was like, it was like on Yahoo News, on my, they're like, Will Ferrell's first audition, I go, oh, I don't think I ever saw this. And then you do that, and it was like crickets, I go, who's there, Marcy and Ken Among, and that's it?

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That's it.

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Because no one, not, you're not required to go to auditions, I don't think, I only went to Louis CK. Bobby Van Ry

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was like there. Oh, Bobby Van Ry, go

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and get him next time, guy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's a stage manager. Nice

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try, kid. So

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you do that, you do get off the shed, did anything do well?

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No, because there, there were no la, he, I think Lauren. Did

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they tape it and watch it or something? They would

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tape it and watch it, it was being beamed back to like Burbank at the same time. It was be, it was being beamed. He's at

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Hamburger Hamlet, watching it online. I'm using the

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technical term, beamed.

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Yeah.

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Uncle Ref was beamed.

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You're being beamed.

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But Molly Shannon told us something about you very specific that I love. She said that when you were in a sketch on SNL and it started to tank, we're all being, yeah,

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always, is that

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you would triple down.

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You would go

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harder at it, like commit. I'd,

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I'd either commit or slow it down even, yeah. I'd, I'd

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take

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longer pauses in between lines to where the point, Wally, the cue card, Wally, a cue card,

would be pointing.

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You have more.

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Sometimes,

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if the cue card,

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if the cue card guy thought you weren't seeing your line, they would point at it, at the line.

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Frantically.

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So I took like a 15 second pause before I deliver the next line. Wally's,

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yeah. You're in blue, that's you.

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but yeah, we would, we would, it's, I don't, I had this perverse thing of like, okay, audience, you don't like it now, you're really not gonna like it. I'm going to punish you

for hating this sketch even more. What

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was that breakout

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on a cold sweat? You had some kind of confidence. But I wanna talk about when you, I first met you, and I knew I would like you. Cause you did something.

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Yeah.

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I was coming back hosting, you know, hey, watch out, hey kids, I had a couple of nominations, how are you? I was super

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nervous and thrilled. But you came up

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to me, and you had a shirt, no, you had a shirt with a zipper, I think, and you just got really close to me, right in my space, unzipped it, and this massively hairy chest, and just leaned in with a smile, hi, I'm Will, you know, it was just,

I didn't quite, in real time, I realized, okay, he's doing shit, but for a second I thought, is this guy have spatial problems, you know?

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Just, just let him do his thing,

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but,

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and,

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just he's leaning in, and that zipper came down a little more, a little more than the belly button. He

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wants you to get

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his scent, and then he'll relax.

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Musky.

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But that was, that was fun, and that was when we did, did we, did I do Ross Perot, and you did, Larry King, cause Lorne Michaels talked about that. I

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did a fabulous Larry King.

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Lorne Michaels called you out.

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Really?

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That sketch was great, and you were great as Larry King.

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Oh, I was so terrible. Was it

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you? You

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were like, don't worry about it, I'm gonna carry the whole thing.

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Well, I had an ace in my pocket by the name of Ross Perot, so it's the easiest laugh I ever got in my life.

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I was like, all I could do was like, I'm Larry King, here we are, Ross Perot, Ross Perot, what do you, that's all I could do. I think you

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carried it beautifully as a precursor to Alex Trebek playing the sort of straight line. Applause. That was good.

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People know your cues,

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but being funny with the straight line, you know. But anyway, that was funny. But I think

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we did Bush and Bush Jr. with the, I had the antlers, I kept banging the antlers. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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That's, so I'm doing George Sr., who's 6'4", and W's 5'11", so I had Herman Munster's shoes like to here, and they padded me up. He's coming in as my little baby son, basically. So at one point, we'll Flops on my lap.

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Yeah.

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There you are, son. How are you? Yeah, yeah. If you play back on YouTube, you hear me go,

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We're on a deer hunt or something. Oh, hunting deer? I

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tried to, yeah, there was another. Because I'm

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rattling the antlers together. Another

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time we were out hunting, and I told you to go out. So that I,

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I would get taken care of. Yeah, it was

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clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep going into the woods, keep walking. And then. Daddy.

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It was of mice and men moment. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I played, Ross Perot in a rehearsal.

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he was in the wide shot.

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I was in a wide shot as Ross Perot. The,

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the most. You remember

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playing

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Woody Allen? Do, do you remember we did a sketch where you, you remember Woody Allen? Yeah, you did Woody Allen.

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Was it the Woody Allen, in a classroom scene with Seinfeld or Jason Alexander? Or was I just playing him or something?

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I think you were just playing him. Did you do?

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I don't even mean to be didactic or facetious, but android previn. Yeah, I was

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playing the actor, the actor who was his buddy, I forget which film, would just go, Max!

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Max, you crazy Max! Yeah, yeah. With his cigar. It was some

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smigel sketch.

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I did it once, once, a cold opening where Rob Schneider was playing Sun Yee, and I

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can't,

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I know. It was the early nineties.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

So I come out. I'm

Speaker 1

going to do a citizens cancel.

Speaker 2

I come out live, and there's no Rob Schneider playing Sun Yee. And the cue card guy's like this, and I'm like, I can't even, you know, she's not even here, you know, I don't know what I'm going to do, you know, because I can't, so I had to just do that for thirty seconds. He was in the makeup

Speaker 1

stuff. He was

Speaker 2

in the makeup chair. Sorry, sorry about that. I didn't know, Woody, I'm sorry. I thought it was Gap Girls. Sorry, go ahead. We do a lot of characters on the show.

Speaker 1

No, but when I, when I came back to host, well,

no applause. when I came, when I, no, I'm just saying, you pick your spots. They're

Speaker 3

hanging on your every word. Yeah, you've got listeners, that's why.

Speaker 1

All I remember, all I remember was, I think there was an army sketch, and then you, had a hard brim hat. Do you remember the idea of this sketch? And then when you came up to me in air, you were poking me in the face with your hat brim. Oh, my

Speaker 2

sensitive,

Speaker 3

Stephen Craig wrote that sketch. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1

What was the story you were, sensitive

Speaker 2

drill sergeant? Yes.

Speaker 3

But I, I barked out all the commands, but it was all loving, therapeutic advice. Yes.

Speaker 1

And then when you got up to me, you hit me in the forehead with your, and, of course it threw me. It was like an old, what Farrel used to do, just start to make you laugh on air, but, it was really just fun being in a sketch with you because when I did my year where I stayed too long, that's what we're calling it now,

by my own five minutes, and then I, but I didn't do sketches, so I felt a little weird because you guys were doing stuff, so we weren't super connected, but I would like to see you guys and stuff, but coming back to host, we were all part of it. That was fun because all, the whole thing I remember of hosting was that one sketch with him. And because, you know, some work, some don't, obviously, and, I think that one is where, when I hosted, Sandler was going to be in my monologue.

Remember he did audience member? Oh, what are you doing? You're so mean. He would stand up and, so we had a whole monologue that.

Speaker 2

What are you No,

Speaker 1

he was like a very timid guy with glasses and a

Speaker 2

called

Speaker 1

audience member and then he had done it a few times and so he's doing it when I host and then that morning Waterboy opened or something, he had to fly back to LA and then they go, Lauren goes, well, it looks like Adam's out. I go, out of the monologue? Well, out of the monologue. And he goes, well, aren't you a standup?

And I go, I mean, sort of. I, I don't really do it anymore. I work at this fucking dump. 20,000 hours a week. I haven't done a set in eight months. And he goes, maybe just seven minutes. That's all you need. I go, yeah, but I need it polished. I can't run to the comedy store. I can't run anywhere. So I put together, I don't know how we got it.

It sounds like

Speaker 3

a fun challenge. It was a

Speaker 1

challenge. And it was, I did a bit about a polar bear and I did a bit about something else, but it was kind of fun and terrifying. And, and then I remember your sketch.

Speaker 3

Thus.

Speaker 1

That was great doing it with you, that's all.

Speaker 3

Every moment of SNL, fun and terrifying. Yeah,

Speaker 1

very scary. Do you remember, have you ever said no to a Tuesday dinner at Orso? With the host?

Speaker 2

With host and wife? I

Speaker 3

think I finally over, because I remember you guys talking about this in, in one of your, one of the podcasts that

you finally work up enough courage to say no, but I think it took,

Speaker 2

because

Speaker 3

I remember you saying,

Speaker 1

Dana,

Speaker 3

you saying that it took you Five seasons before it felt like it was like your home gym, or before you stopped. Yeah. And I literally remember your words, it literally took me five years before I didn't feel nervous every single second. And,

Speaker 2

You, you had the same experience.

Speaker 3

Same experience. And so by year six and seven, I think I was, I, I finally had the guts to be like, I'm not going on a Tuesday.

Speaker 1

Usually, there's a Tuesday day, then

Speaker 2

you, I think somewhere you, you went to this other gear. I don't know what, when it happened, but...

Speaker 1

You got good, I think it was the last week

Speaker 3

when you were there. Yeah,

Speaker 2

your last show, that was epic. Cowbell, and then I think you left right after Cowbell, right?

Speaker 3

Every, every best of sketches in my last show of the seven seasons.

Speaker 1

I heard Cowbell, I watched them to do Frank and Gall. So were you nervous

Speaker 2

then because Bill Hader told us that he was having panic attacks the whole time. I never was able to see it, like literally panic attacks in the bathroom by himself, crying. And, but you control it, but were you breaking up? I never got

Speaker 3

that bad, but there were, there was just, you know, it, it, it got less and less with each year.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And it, but it would always surprise me,

especially after that first year where you're, you're like, okay, I think I've gone through everything you're going to go through where you potentially are going to get thrown.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

It would just come out of the blue where it would be, I don't know, it wouldn't even be like the first show of the season, it'd be something like the seventh show. It's like, why do I don't have a good feeling. This is not going to be good.

Speaker 2

And it would just come

Speaker 3

out of, just come out of nowhere,

Speaker 2

and,

Speaker 3

and then it'd be fine the rest of the year, but I, it's inexplicable.

Speaker 2

It's, it's two things happen, I think. There's people like Eddie Murphy was a savant, you know, basically at 19, but I think for most people, you get a little more confident, and then the audience starts to see you, and then you get a little more confident, and then finally when the audience sees you come out, they're kind of excited, and then, and then it builds on it.

I've seen it happen with a lot of cast members over time. That's why

Speaker 1

Lauren says do You know, well with me I was newer, but like a feature player, but do a few lines here, a few lines there, just to get them to see your face and know you're part of the situation. So then they know, okay, he's one of these guys, and then they will buy you when you do a full sketch. But you came, you were one of the ones that, like Dana, where you came out and you had to be a full, were you a full cast member when you started?

Speaker 3

Well, we were, we were, we were really lucky because that year before,

Speaker 1

was when they got

Speaker 3

rid of the deadwood. Farley Sandler. Farley Sandler.

Speaker 1

Get rid of him.

Speaker 2

Clean it out the deadwood.

Speaker 3

Myers, this clown right here. Myers, Dana, yeah.

Speaker 1

Phil Hartman. Boo!

Speaker 3

I

Speaker 1

was hanging onto the door like Titanic. I

Speaker 2

love it.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

So you negate the place and start over. So, we had a brand new, we had eight brand new cast members and a brand new writing staff.

Speaker 1

Very weird. So,

Speaker 3

we didn't know any better. We, we were like, it wasn't that, because I've talked to past cast members who were added, wanted to talk, like by themselves, and that's super.

Speaker 1

Or mid-season. Mid-season to try to break

Speaker 3

through that way. In fact, Molly was mid-season the year before I got there.

Speaker 1

Oh, she was there, okay.

Speaker 3

And we were laughing because she was like, what is this? You guys get like cue card training and, and you get shown where all the, where the, here's the wardrobe department, here's your quick change area. I didn't get any of that.

Speaker 1

I

Speaker 3

said, my God.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And, and she was just laughing going, she was like, I was a little mad actually. You guys got to, did you get trained on the cue, did you, do you remember anything like that? No

Speaker 1

one even talked about it.

Speaker 2

Just terror. I mean, my thing was freaky because I, in the first show I was in the cold opening and I didn't know it was the cold opening. I was just in it. I didn't, I knew it was my first time doing sketch comedy. It was hard for me not to look at the audience like a standup, you know? And then the church lady popped and came in and I had Sigourney Weaver and Phil and Jan.

And so then that took off. Crazy. So I was just in boiled in water immediately. And then Chopping Broccoli. No

Speaker 3

one, no, Chopping Broccoli.

Speaker 2

Chopping Broccoli. Jeez.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Which, that

Speaker 2

was in my first show.

Speaker 3

That's your first show? Yeah. Oh my God. The cutaway to Phil, by the way.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3

Just him and Joe, everyone just going, this is the worst song ever. And then Phil Hartman just going, yes.

Speaker 2

Phil Hartman, I'll give you Phil Hartman as great a compliment as I can. You remind me of a lot of people, Peter Sellers, and you also remind me of Phil because you were, you were Alex Trebek. That would have been what, Phil would have played that character.

Speaker 3

Phil Hartman and Dan Aykroyd were like my guys I looked up to because I just loved how they could swim. They could be the main guy or be the background guy. I, I, that's what I loved about ensemble comedy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and you know, everyone is, who knows them both just said they're, they're kind of scientists, comedians. They would just, Phil would read, you know, books about Evan Root, motorboats on the set and then pick up a script, kill it in the rehearsal, come back. And Aykroyd's the same way. He's interested in science and astronomy. Phil

Speaker 3

Hartman came to host when we were, I don't know if it was that first year or the second year. Oh, really? He comes back to host and I'm in the room, I think it was with Tom Janis and Adam McKay and Koechner and I just can't I don't know what to say to him. So I'm just sitting in the chair, and I'm just like, that's Phil Hartman. And, he finally picks up on it.

He's like, what gives with the Pharaoh kid?

Speaker 1

What gives? That got

Speaker 3

your tongue? It was like, do I walk out of the room? I was like, and I was just like, oh, no, I just what these guys said.

Speaker 1

And I was

Speaker 3

just, yeah, and I mean, I'm writing the thing that they're gonna write for you, too. And, but he was just, oh, what a great guy. Yeah, there was just something about

Speaker 2

him, and he was so effortless, and he didn't care, and he was so unassuming about it. And, we, that's why we nicknamed him The Glue. He was just somebody who was always there.

Speaker 3

But God, he picked up on the fact that I just, I wouldn't, I couldn't speak. Yeah, couldn't speak a word. God, that's so

Speaker 2

interesting, because now we have data of where you went. And where you're still going, and to hear this stuff, I feel like a human. Yeah,

Speaker 1

stopped.

Speaker 3

Stopped. You remember when I

Speaker 2

stopped? You remember

Speaker 3

when I ran into you at the Laker game?

Speaker 1

I

Speaker 3

see, I hadn't seen you in a while. I run into you at the Laker game, you're like, oh, hey, Will, hey, hey, hey, sorry about the career.

Speaker 1

Oh, I can't, I can't even hide my jealous rage.

Speaker 3

You're like, hey, by the way, good to see you. Sorry about the career.

Speaker 1

Sorry everything went up on a fucking rocket ship.

no, because the first time I saw you was at Butterfield and Butterfield.

Oh, yeah, you heard me.

Speaker 3

Oh, man.

Speaker 1

We, you worked at an auction house that was, is Christie's now, I think, on, Sunset.

Speaker 3

And I

Speaker 1

was buying Elvis memorabilia. And I took my

Speaker 3

gross

Speaker 1

new money, and I was, I bought an Elvis set list. Joey Esposito, who is Elvis's, one of his buddies, was there authenticating stuff. I got a set list that he wrote out his handwriting, and I think I loved Elvis. I bought a, one of his guns, and then I bought a,

Speaker 3

and then his watch,

Speaker 1

and I thought it was cool as shit. And then you worked there.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And then you, I had my Land Cruiser, which I still have tonight, and I, you walked me out, and, that's where I met you, and then I, when I saw you at SNL, I think we remembered that you worked there, right? You did work there.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no, I worked there, and my, my then good friend, and that was the last

Speaker 1

time I was funnier than you. And later

Speaker 3

my wife worked there too.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, she worked there? Oh, that's right. She

Speaker 3

was the auctioneer. Oh, hey, bada, hey, bada,

Speaker 1

yeah.

Speaker 3

Exactly like that. Hey,

Speaker 1

bada, hey, bada.

Speaker 3

Can you yell out a number? You keep saying, hey, bada, hey, bada. We can't follow the bidding.

Speaker 1

But, it was interesting seeing you there, and then, obviously we, we, we joke around about the, the, the monster movies after that. I mean, we can talk about SNL because I was gonna ask you, before we get to all these movies, your, what was your favorite commercial parody you were in? Do you remember commercial parodies? Did you do a lot or not?

Speaker 3

Yeah, I didn't, I was, I was a little bit bummed. When I first started, I wasn't in, I was, I don't think I was in any of those initial commercial parodies.

and

Speaker 1

usually it was sort of like jury duty because it takes you away from the show a little bit, because you have to dedicate a full day to shooting it during the week, and now they do a lot of pre-tapes during the week. You see the host in a lot of, I mean, they beat the shit out of the actors. But you'd come

Speaker 3

sometime in September to start. You

Speaker 1

can go do them early? Oh, yeah, we go do them early, right before

Speaker 3

that first show. Yeah. I wasn't

Speaker 2

in many of those. Knockout

Speaker 1

one or, yeah. Dana,

Speaker 2

yes,

Speaker 1

I'm just gonna ask you something.

Speaker 2

Okay,

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

One thing I'm just quickly very interested in because I, you know, you think everyone knows everything about you, but what was that transition from USC to being, to the Groundlings? And then how long at the Groundlings till you got on SNL? How fast did you get on SNL from when you started

Speaker 3

trying to be a

Speaker 2

comedian?

Speaker 3

I graduated SC in 90. moved home immediately, which was great.

Speaker 2

Back to Orange County. Back

Speaker 3

to Orange County.

Speaker 2

Okay, good move.

Speaker 3

Everyone was super psyched about that. So that's in 1990? Yeah. that was 1990. I'm

Speaker 2

back, Dad.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm back. Thanks for the education. Yeah, thanks for the, thanks for the degree.

and, I, I, I then was, I was gonna try to be a sportscaster. That's what I studied at SC. I was going, going, but at the same time, I, I thought,

I better, I better try this comedy thing if I'm gonna give it a shot. Because I

Speaker 2

was from a childhood sort of inkling, you know, prankster and all that. Yeah, always

Speaker 3

liking it, but too afraid to try it. And, and that's when I started taking classes at the Groundlings, trying some stand-up comedy.

Pretty darn good.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Did you ever play the cannery down in Newport? Or the San Juan Depot where a actual train goes through? You're set.

Speaker 1

Well, I did like four professional comedy clubs.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I don't think I was in

Speaker 1

that club. Nino's in Long

Speaker 3

Beach, an Italian restaurant.

Speaker 1

I did not.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Oh, the big spots.

Speaker 1

I did,

Speaker 2

yeah. Sir Laughs a lot in Glendale.

Speaker 1

Godfusters. Yeah.

Speaker 2

The Rib Tickler in Minneapolis I played. That's real.

Speaker 3

But I was doing some stand-up. I was doing, and growlings, you have to, you work your way through this school.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And, but it, the courses are so booked up, you'll finish one level and you got to wait six months before the next one opens up. So then I was just back at home, working odd jobs. I was a bank teller. And this is

Speaker 2

in 91, 92? 91,

Speaker 3

92.

Speaker 2

You're still doing odd jobs.

Speaker 3

And then I think 93, I get into the main company.

At, or the Sunday company at the Growling School. Did you have

Speaker 2

a character that you had developed at that point that got you to that? Was Harry Carey around? Harry

Speaker 3

Carey was in the main company. Yeah. So the Sunday shows like their B team, like their minor league team, and then you get into the main company and,

and that's when, Get Off the Shed sketch I, I had done, and I done, I started doing Harry Carey, that was during the baseball strike one year.

Speaker 2

Inspired character.

Speaker 3

And, and I thought, oh, baseball, there's no baseball games right now. Wonder what Harry Carey's doing with his, with his days. I thought it'd be funny. I wish, I should set him in like a acting class doing a play reading of a super Dramatic play.

And so I wrote this sketch about Harry in a community theater, rehearsal space. And, you know, I was like, okay, let's take the scene from the top and, you know, and then it was Harry Carey doing like, Damn it, Carol, what happened to us?

I look in your eyes and I don't see love anymore.

And then

Speaker 2

you disappear. I literally, your face from this angle, I didn't see Will.

Speaker 3

I remember Maggie Baird, who was, she, she played my wife, but they, the other act, they had to play, I said, you guys have to play it really, like if you can make yourself cry, do it. So they're reading the lines like, I don't know, I just, we're distant. And she's like getting herself to cry, and then I'm playing off of that. It was, it was madness.

But The audience, I knew it was working when the audience was laughing at the, without any knowledge of who Harry Carey was. They'd just be like, who's that crazy guy you do with him? Yeah,

Speaker 1

yeah, they just, sounds funny.

Speaker 3

But, so I'd done that, and by that spring of 95, that was when we'd heard SNL's looking to recast. So it was,

Speaker 2

it

Speaker 3

was pretty fast, it was like two years.

Speaker 2

Did you have anybody in a position of authority, a mentor, someone at the groundlings, or someone who pulled you aside at one point, said, I think you really can do this? Or,

Speaker 3

it was a really supportive, I mean, was

Speaker 2

everyone sort of giving you feedback a little bit? Was it more

Speaker 1

supportive than SNL?

Speaker 3

Well, I would say typically yes, but we, the group we had at the show, we were kind of like our backs, we got lucky, our backs. Who was in

Speaker 2

that group?

Speaker 3

That was, that would have been Molly and myself, Chris

Speaker 2

Kattan.

Speaker 3

Chris Kattan came later.

Speaker 1

Anna guest,

Speaker 3

Anna came the next year, Sherry,

Speaker 2

Terry,

Speaker 1

Norm was doing,

Speaker 3

Norm was doing

Speaker 1

Ted

Speaker 3

Meadows,

Speaker 2

Jim,

Speaker 3

Jim Brewer,

Speaker 2

Nancy Walls, Kevin, Steve Carell's wife, Nancy Walls, and

Speaker 3

it was a lot of people who'd done sketch comedy, so everyone was just kind of like pulling for each other in a very on SNL way because we knew like, the show's about to get canceled. Not to mention, everyone in network television saw there was blood in the water, so we had to go, but Mad TV premiered.

Speaker 1

Oh, yeah. Howard Stern

Speaker 3

had a sketch comedy show. Oh,

Speaker 2

really? Your first year? All that was on. Funny.

Speaker 3

But I think, and you did your show.

Speaker 2

In ninety-six, yeah. That

Speaker 3

first,

Speaker 2

yeah, that was

Speaker 1

prime time. It

Speaker 2

made half an episode. They pulled us out.

Speaker 3

Were you guys doing it on a Friday night, maybe?

Speaker 2

I wouldn't, I think, no, it was right after, Spin City or Home Improvement. And there was a

Speaker 3

fourth, there was a fourth, there was four or five different sketch comedy shows that whole year.

Speaker 2

And then Living Color might have still been on. Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, The State, maybe. So,

Speaker 3

anyway, so we were, we were like actually pulling for each other. Sort of

Speaker 1

friendly, was, was Cheerleaders that first year?

Speaker 3

Was that first year.

Speaker 1

So you had a couple that really worked, so there was no danger. No, no. There was.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I know, I know. Don't, don't ruin the flow. You're

Speaker 1

getting it wrong. I say my stuff.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

no, no.

Speaker 1

No, but cheerleaders must have, I think it crushed from immediately, and then you did it a few times that year. So you were no danger of feeling down deep you might get fired or anything. You were doing well enough that first year to go. I'm pretty solid. Except,

Speaker 3

except they, they did a thing where I think we were signed for the first nine shows and then

Speaker 1

picked up. Oh, gross.

Speaker 3

But then, but then, that was a gross pick up.

Speaker 1

I mean, it's just,

Speaker 3

but then they, dare I say, they broke the contract and they said, nope, you're just picked up, you're picked up for just five more shows.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 3

And then we'll see if you're picked up for the last five.

Speaker 2

This is your first season. Just getting these little pickups.

Speaker 1

That's what happens when I date girls. They pick me up for two more dates and then they go, we'll see how it goes after that. I'm sorry, you don't have to laugh. No, no, you don't have to.

Speaker 2

It's all right.

Speaker 1

They thought you said it, so you've got to laugh. no, you,

Speaker 3

But it was still,

Speaker 2

so,

Speaker 3

it was still harrowing.

Speaker 1

It's, by the way, I don't think you're ever relaxed there going, I got it made here. So I don't think that's ever a feeling if you're new. Even if you're doing great. Except those

Speaker 3

last couple seasons, I really felt like...

Speaker 2

But I did have

Speaker 3

a fantastic, so when my, arbitrarily that, my last year, when I just decided that would be my last year,

Speaker 2

for no good reason,

Speaker 3

just felt like the right amount of time. Lauren took me to dinner to talk me into staying.

Speaker 1

Chili's?

Speaker 3

Houston, Houston's?

Speaker 1

I can get us in, I can do Hillstone.

Speaker 3

Houston's at 9:30. Does that work?

Speaker 1

After the rush?

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

These dinners are very interesting. So, well, you're going to stay. That's how he does it sometimes. You'll stay another two years. Oh, yeah, I just

Speaker 1

tell you.

Speaker 2

He'll tell you what's going to happen.

Speaker 3

It was at Pastis.

Speaker 1

Oh.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Okay. But how

Speaker 1

awkward, because you want to say no, you want to leave, right?

Speaker 3

Well,

Speaker 2

you'd already filled old school, but we'll get to that, right? During the...

Speaker 3

Yeah, that was in the can. That was in the can. That was in the can, but no one knew.

Speaker 2

You didn't know where it was going. That was in

Speaker 3

the can. That's a term for... It's in the can, meaning... It's edited, but they haven't shown it yet. Because they

Speaker 2

used to have a cellular... You

Speaker 1

did that in the summer, and then you came back and did that another? I think

Speaker 3

I did it partly through part of that, the fall of that, that seventh season.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 3

So, how did Lorne

Speaker 2

pitch you? Lorne

Speaker 3

said the most... He said, so, I understand you're thinking about leaving. And I would just suggest this. You're at a, you're at a high point right now. But you want to start just to begin to dip.

And then you should leave. And I was like, but Lauren, that seems counterintuitive. Like,

and then,

Speaker 1

work for John Lovitz.

Speaker 3

When Lauren doesn't really want to hear an answer, he always goes, just think about it.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

No,

Speaker 3

no, no, no, no, no, no, just

Speaker 2

think about it. Think about it. I'm going to draw the chart on a

Speaker 1

napkin.

Speaker 3

High point. Yeah. Let me, let me just think about waiting for me to dip. And then leave. I will think about that.

Speaker 2

And you just said, I'll think about it.

Speaker 3

And then we never talked about it ever again.

Speaker 2

But it seems like, you know, you did Molly's movie, you did a lot of, you did the movie with Chris, and you, you know, you were kind of, and then you'd done Cowbell and everything else. It seemed like your timing was impeccable. I mean, you were ready, but you could have killed for three more years on the show.

Speaker 3

It would have too. I mean, if No, if, if anyone had put a showbiz gun to my head and said, this is all you get to do, I would have said, great.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

It was the hardest, most fun job I've ever done.

Speaker 2

Most exhilarating, bizarre. Right, yeah,

Speaker 3

yeah. but yeah, we... I couldn't hear you.

Speaker 1

Did someone put a gun to your head?

Speaker 3

Someone put a gun, Elvis, one of Elvis's old guns. Oh,

Speaker 1

goddamn.

Speaker 3

Bought at auction to my head.

Speaker 1

Don't use mine right back on you. Comes around,

Speaker 2

comes around. This crowd

Speaker 1

does not know what to do because... I think I

Speaker 3

was in a dark nightclub in Scottsdale.

Speaker 1

Where I'm from. Arizona, 54th. When you did, so in the, in the summers, you did, that's what we would try to do, is a movie in the summer, so you did. what was the first one? Was it Superstar? Were you in Superstar?

Speaker 3

I was in Super... The first one was, was

Speaker 1

it, Roxbury? I

Speaker 3

think the first one was Roxbury. I heard the original

Speaker 1

title was called A Day at the Roxbury.

Speaker 3

Then

Speaker 1

he goes, maybe night. Oh,

Speaker 2

we're doing brewery, this month. Is

Speaker 1

there any way you could still

Speaker 2

shake your neck

Speaker 1

like that or no? It's too hard.

Speaker 3

I don't know if I can't, I don't know if I remember what the motion was. It was,

Speaker 2

it was,

Speaker 1

If I did it now, I would just hold my head still and go...

Try to trick the audience.

Speaker 2

Like a little cardboard cutout.

Speaker 3

Actually, that's a sketch Catan and I would do at the Growlings.

Speaker 2

Oh, you brought it in. So we

Speaker 3

brought that in, but...

Speaker 1

Yeah. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but for the audience... Well, if they don't know, but we say it sometimes. When you come on, when I was there, you would, say what sketches you had when you came in or what characters.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 1

And then you own them, even if you did them on the show. I think Mike owned Wayne, Wayne's World. and then, I was just,

no, I don't know. No, they were

Speaker 2

pretty tricky about that. I, I don't know. We'll, we'll own it even if we don't own it. Maybe fifty-fifty.

Speaker 1

and then, and then whatever you came up with in the writer's room, they own, right? Is that how it works? Yeah. So if you came in with, that, and then, I think it's more incentivizing if you would think if, if it was a sketch they owned, you know? Because Lorne was doing a lot of sketches for a while, like even Tommy Boy was sort of us at the office based on,

Speaker 2

what was that movie?

Speaker 1

You guys,

Speaker 2

what was Tommy Boy about? I

Speaker 1

get the top of the hand?

Speaker 2

and then,

Speaker 1

woo! And then Waynesworld and, Let's get some box

Speaker 2

office numbers out here. Roxbury versus Tommy Boy. Let's see what's pulling a coin down ten. We weren't a big

Speaker 1

hit, though. We were...

Speaker 3

Roxbury maybe made thirty.

Speaker 1

We barely... We made probably thirty-five. We barely...

Speaker 3

Really?

Speaker 1

Yeah, Waynesworld was the big hit, yeah.

Speaker 3

Oh, Tommy Boy made like fifty.

Speaker 1

No, it just made... What about Black

Speaker 3

Sheep?

Speaker 1

What about what?

Speaker 3

Black Sheep.

Speaker 1

Black Sheep made about the same. It, But they sort of did better in, as it went on, like on video. But, Some movies like that, in hindsight, you probably thought they made more, but it didn't. It opened number one and so did Black Sheep, but it wasn't like a huge killing, but it just sort of resonated over time, which helps, because a lot of them do better and then they don't resonate.

You know how it is. You got a lot of movies. Actually, all

Speaker 3

DVDs

Speaker 1

did well, but to other people.

Speaker 3

Not really.

Speaker 1

DVDs

Speaker 2

are huge. Well,

Speaker 1

yeah, DVDs are coming back,

Speaker 3

by

Speaker 2

the way. Oh,

Speaker 1

yeah. Live

Speaker 2

streaming is so over. Let's get some hardware going. I want to put it in a slot.

Speaker 1

No, it was like, I remember Walmart said, every time people throw in Tommy Boy or Joe Dirt when they come by in the aisle, and it doesn't go down. Every week they get the same amount of people just go, just throw in, just throw it in. So that made money, I guess, for them. But not really me, but I like those ones that kind of live on. There's not that many.

but, when you came out, so old school was, such a monster. Was your idea to be naked and streak because you did that before,

or? Or it

Speaker 2

seems to me that you have got a comfort level of using your body, you know, in a very funny way. I

Speaker 3

had a comfort level, yeah. You would

Speaker 2

streak in college, right, or is that made up?

Speaker 3

I had, yeah, I had. My dad's in the audience tonight. Dad. Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1

you're trying to overthink your answers.

Speaker 3

I, I streaked in college, Dad.

Speaker 2

Your dad is out there, right here on our audience, Mr.

Speaker 1

Yeah. But

Speaker 3

yeah, that, well, I was always, that was the thing I loved about Chris Farley. I mean, I, I just remember, I remember thinking, okay, I'm going to meet people that are just as funny as me and people that are much funnier than me, but the one, I'll just They won't be able to out-commit me. It would be, it was like my promise to myself

Speaker 1

would

Speaker 2

have been so bad.

Speaker 3

I, I was, I had no problem taking my shirt off during sketches and things like that, and, but I do remember reading the, the script for Old School and reading that joke, reading, and there's sometimes a disconnect that you read it and you go, oh, that'll be funny, until the day you actually have to perform it.

Speaker 2

And, yeah. Little,

Speaker 3

little, little

Speaker 2

marble,

Speaker 3

little marble sack, as they say

Speaker 1

in the

Speaker 3

industry. and, yeah, we shot it here in Montrose. Anyone from Montrose here tonight?

Speaker 1

I've only heard about that on the band

Speaker 2

Montrose.

Speaker 3

but yeah, we shot that right out here near Altadena, and I just remember we were shooting in, in, in front of, a bunch of stores, storefronts, and there was like a, a local health club.

And there was all these yuppie people working out, getting their power walking in, and I said to the PA, like, does anyone, has anyone told them what's about to happen? Because I'm in the robe, and I got the marble sack attached to the crucial area, and,

does anyone know about to drop the robe? And like, do, do we want to tell, you know, some kid on a headset, like, what, huh? I don't know.

Speaker 1

Okay, back

Speaker 3

to one. I think we're going to film it now. We're ready. That first take, I'm running, and I'm trying to, I'm like, honey, we're all going straight. I'm hearing off in the distance, through the window of the health club, oh my god.

Speaker 1

So many pubes.

Speaker 3

And then we shoot it, we cut, we reset.

Speaker 2

Another take.

Speaker 1

He's not gonna do the take.

Speaker 3

There's like one old guy in there still power walking.

Speaker 1

Extra.

Speaker 3

By the third take, health club totally cleared out. No one wanted to watch me run naked down the street. How

Speaker 2

many takes?

Speaker 3

It was, it was probably more than we needed. Camera

Speaker 2

from behind and from

Speaker 3

behind. Crane,

Speaker 1

crane shot. I

Speaker 2

gotta bring

Speaker 3

in the, the Super 50 techno. yeah, side shot.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And then camera in the car where I go in butt first to sit down. So yeah, a bunch of shots, a bunch of teens. Dana,

Speaker 1

I know this is supposed to be on Will.

Speaker 2

Dana, I mean Will, can I

Speaker 1

tell you one embarrassing

Speaker 3

story?

Speaker 2

Just

Speaker 1

remind me and walk. I have to move for this. It's not worth it at all. But we'll take it out later. So this is embarrassing because one movie I did called Warning Shot, it was sort of a drama and there was gun.

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Warning Shot. That's when you played the kingpin, right?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, I was a bad guy. The drug

Speaker 2

lord. So I was a

Speaker 1

drug lord. Dana, I knew you'd see the trailer. So I, you

Speaker 2

sent it to me.

Speaker 1

Dana, we're taking this all out anyway, it doesn't matter. I gotta

Speaker 3

watch Warning Shot. So,

Speaker 1

well, watch it on the plane. So here I am.

And Warning shot.

Speaker 3

Warning shot.

Speaker 1

Warning shot. Okay. And, I don't want to give the whole thing away because everyone's going to run home and watch it.

Speaker 3

Directed warning shot.

Speaker 1

I don't know if we had a director. I realized halfway through we were just all talking.

Speaker 2

AI directed it.

Speaker 1

So they said there's a part where I get squibs, lingo, so there's a, gunfight.

Speaker 2

You're going to get shot. So they

Speaker 1

have to ling me, they have to, squib me up. So they put like little, you know, pepsi ACs on you that blow up, you know what I mean? Like whatever. But they have to, I don't know if it's electronically, they have to tape it to you.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 1

And they actually make, it's, it like makes a spark or

Speaker 3

something.

Speaker 1

So they,

Speaker 3

Small explosion. Right.

Speaker 1

So they tape a couple here. to my bird chest, and then, but I'm at lunch eating a burrito, and then they go, hey, shooting after lunch. I go, and, but like you, I don't even think about it, and then I go, oh, wait, I have to, this guy's coming in here. So the, special effects guy, he's got like a ponytail, you know, this kind of guy. He comes in,

Speaker 3

It's like, it's like a sound guy that's in your voice.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he goes, we're gonna do these, and you might feel a spark, and if there's a full fire, we'll, you know, we'll address it then. And I go, okay.

Speaker 3

Which means it's happening.

Speaker 1

Which means it's his first day. So he goes, they just pulled me off this other thing. Home Depot? Yeah. So, So he goes, okay, so he wires me up like shirt off, and then they go one, two, three, four, let's say, and then they tape me out, and now they stick them on, and now they have to go down my pant leg, and then, you know what I mean, like out the back, the wires, and then the guy has like a little blow-up plunger.

So I, I, so I have to put my pants on over that, so these are on here, and they go back like six feet to him, and he's like, got it, and then in my trailer, and then I delicately put my shirt on, and they go, ready for you, so I start to walk out, and he's following me, and then I start drifting off on the way to the set going, what are my lines, blah, blah, blah, take that, dag nabbit, or whatever I'm saying.

Speaker 2

You were playing like a macho bag. Yeah, like I'm a tough guy, so I'm

Speaker 1

just, I'm dri, this is the embarrassing, I'm drifting off, and then I go, and then

Three toots in a row, just to myself, I don't care, I'm just walking, and then I hear behind me, hey, come on, man.

I forgot he was, I forgot he was six feet and already leaning over.

Speaker 3

Hey, come on, man.

Speaker 1

Because I'm first team, the worst thing you can say is, come on, he wanted to bust my fucking head open. And I go, I go, he goes, it's cool, it's cool. It wasn't cool, it was so horrible. I, I couldn't apologize, but I had to laugh so hard first, because it was so uncool. And then he's walking through, and then, guess what? The squibs went wrong after that.

Because, because,

Speaker 2

squibs were a relief after that.

Speaker 1

I just walk on the set, I go, are we ready? And he's like, blam! And I'm like, he's like, oh, early?

Speaker 3

It's usually the indignant special effects person who They get mad at you, even though they didn't have it hooked up right. And so filming a night at the Roxbury, we, one of the gags was we're driving, we're doing the head thing, and then Catan smashes, does it so hard, he smashes his side, his passenger side window with his head, and it explodes.

But that's all squibbed up, so that's supposed to,

Speaker 1

that's

Speaker 3

supposed to crack with the aid of technology.

Speaker 1

Timing, when he touches it, bam.

Speaker 3

Special effect guy, same, same guy,

Speaker 1

he's

Speaker 3

waiting by the console, you know, going hot, going hot on a fast.

Speaker 1

Cool dialogue, coming in hot, yeah.

Speaker 3

You're timing it out, you're rehearsing, how many head, okay, we'll do it on the fifth one, and on the fifth one, Chris will go like this. So we're doing, you know, what is that, and we're doing our thing, and Chris. One, two, three, four, whack!

Side does nothing. The side

Speaker 2

doesn't break,

Speaker 3

doesn't break at all. Guy comes in, it's like, I don't, it's all checked out or something.

Wasn't plugged in. As if we're supposed to go, oh, great,

Speaker 1

no problem.

Speaker 3

But Catan's got like a shiner. Yeah. And he's like, do we, do we trust him? Do we do it again? He

Speaker 1

goes, are we doing it again?

Speaker 3

But it's, they get so excited when they discover their, their issue.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah. He's

Speaker 1

like, it wasn't my fault, it wasn't plugged in. You're like, that's still your fault. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Isn't it funny? It wasn't plugged in.

Speaker 3

Can you believe it? It wasn't plugged in.

Speaker 2

show business is difficult, that's all we're saying. It

Speaker 3

did.

Speaker 1

But I

Speaker 3

do love the guy, like, come on, man.

Speaker 1

Oh, he just kind of,

Speaker 3

he

Speaker 1

did the harshest he could go is, hey, come on, man. Like, and then I was like, oh my god, he can't yell at me. It's so, because he just.

Speaker 3

But we always found that with the effects guys on SNL, that like if you had a gag. At the

Speaker 1

bar for something.

Speaker 3

Like, please, we need so much blood. It's supposed to be over the top amount of blood. You got it. It's going to be so much blood. Dress rehearsal, like one spot.

Speaker 2

And

Speaker 3

you'd look over and the guy would be like, I don't know what happened. Sorry, I don't know. You want more

Speaker 1

than that?

Speaker 3

Yes.

Speaker 1

I want the funny version of the blood. Funny

Speaker 3

version and like then add 100% to that.

Speaker 1

We did it with Alec Baldwin and we were, and Jay Moore, we were all like, every cop that came to the set goes, I think Phil comes up and he goes. This is the sickest, most gruesome set, you know, I've ever seen car crash, and he throws up, and then he goes, Captain, Captain, what's going on? Then he throws up, and it was just a joke if we all throw up.

And like me and Jay, by the time we got there, we were newer and we had two lines, but the throw up wasn't working as well, and it goes, it's same thing, up your leg, up a hose, and the guy in the back going,

and then at rehearsal, we're like, guys, more, same thing. Yeah,

Speaker 3

please.

Speaker 1

Funny throw up. It's got, it goes everywhere, and it's too much, no one's mad. It's too much is better, and I think by the time we did it, it was either a leaky faucet, you know, it just barely, and you're like, and then it's funny cause you're like,

Speaker 3

it's just a little,

Speaker 1

cause it's coming out of your arm. Little spittle. Right,

Speaker 2

there's a spray my whole face, spray,

Speaker 1

funny. Anyway, that's not, that's neither here nor there right now.

Speaker 3

No, no, no.

Speaker 1

No, but, but, Do you

Speaker 2

have any other stories you'd like to share?

Speaker 1

Did you do, were you an anchorman? Cause I didn't read everything.

I know you were in,

Speaker 2

I

Speaker 3

auditioned for him, but I don't know. Where was the

Speaker 2

guy, Ron Flirgaty? Oh yeah, was Burgundy,

Speaker 1

that wasn't something from SNL, right? That was something you thought of after.

Speaker 3

That was, after. Yeah, that was after the show. And was

Speaker 1

that one of your first, you left SNL, was that one of your first, starring in movies?

Speaker 3

Old school, old school. Came out? Came out after I left,

while we were filming. Yeah, so I left, and I didn't really,

Speaker 1

is that the old

Speaker 3

school film that they held onto it, which is usually a bad sign, they didn't release it until later. After

Speaker 2

Anchorman.

Speaker 3

No, no. Well, before, so it was old school, and then we were working on this script about an elf. Oh, elf was back

Speaker 1

then?

Speaker 3

That was not, that needed a bunch of work. So when I left the show, there wasn't, I didn't like have this stack of scripts waiting for me. But holy

Speaker 1

shit, to come out with those three?

Speaker 2

Old school, elf, and Anchorman were

Speaker 3

the first two movies I did after I left the show. That's

Speaker 1

unreal. old school, you go, you're crazy. Is that, is that what you said?

Speaker 3

After the trunk start? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1

Hysterical.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So many parts of old school are great. when Vince Vaughn goes, hey, you need some sand? I got a sand guy. everything about old school is funny. Love that one. elf obviously was, such a huge home run hit, and, still to this day plays. But elf

Speaker 3

was, elf was, that was, that was a little scary, only because I'd come off of SNL and, well, old school Known probably for doing more

Speaker 2

PG-13, edgier stuff.

Speaker 3

And then I'm in this family thing

Speaker 1

that's risky.

Speaker 3

Going, this could be it. I don't know. I'm just sitting around, running around the streets of New York in yellow tights.

Speaker 2

But your, your, your style, I guess I'd say, is you just, you never wink and you commit like a dramatic actor. And that's, that's what kind of holds you up.

Speaker 1

Well, Alf, all those things. Thank you,

Speaker 3

Dana.

Speaker 2

Thank you. I say the same thing. You haven't said anything about that. I said

Speaker 3

it before you

Speaker 1

got here.

Speaker 3

It's Dana.

Speaker 2

You can do a trick that Kevin Nealon can do.

Speaker 3

It's, you

Speaker 2

can lower your IQ just twenty points.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

Just with your eyes. Very subtly. And it's genius, but every time we were doing Hans and Franz, cocky idiots, and we were talking and they go, five, four, three, I'd look at Kevin, and he would just, his eyes would just go really dumb. Yeah. Yeah, and he could lower his IQ like forty points, but you, you have that skill set of being able to just take IQ off your, with just, just something about your eyes.

I think that's

Speaker 3

good. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

You need that. Kind of like a

Speaker 2

guy, what was his name? Sells, Sellers.

Speaker 1

Peter Sellers.

Speaker 3

Peter

Speaker 2

Sellers, kind of like that guy.

Speaker 3

Pete Sell, I call him. Pete Seller.

Speaker 2

Did, cause you do have some symmetry with him. A lot of comedians want to claim Peter Sellers, but I do think you have something in, you know, that cocky idiot character that, that also is very dry, extremely bizarre word packages

Speaker 3

with

Speaker 2

a lot of physicality. Anyway, I just, I've been researching you for this. But that's,

Speaker 3

that's how I started thinking of the Ron Burgundy character because I was watching Footage of this news anchor who'd been retired for 20 years, but he still talked like this. And I walk through my local market and I'll be ordering, you know, I'll be buying my groceries and people will hear my voice and they'll know, they'll ask me, were you in news? And I say, yes, I used to be.

And I thought, who talks like that? You're not a news guy anymore. And I thought, oh, that's funny. Someone who'd never lose his, that affect. Yeah.

Speaker 1

But all the stuff writing that San Diego's funny, casting it right, there's so many ways to do a movie wrong. Even if you have a funny character, like you got to get it directed well, written well, perform it well, edited. There's so many ways to ruin it along the way. And that's why sometimes you sign up for a movie, it just doesn't come out.

Because there's so many ways to mess it up. But to have all those work all the way through is very, very tough to do. And, Anchorman is one of those that has hit on all cylinders. And then the sequel, I was watching the fight scene from the sequel today. And it's so fucking funny where

Speaker 3

you're thinking

Speaker 1

of different ways to have different news people and, and then everyone's playing it as funny. And they all, they keep coming in their different groups. All that was funny and topping the first one was hard, but you did that with that. Also,

Speaker 3

two days with Kanye West.

Speaker 1

I, I figured out that was Kanye. I'm like,

Speaker 3

Kanye made this cameo, but he, he filmed this thing and then he just hung out the next day. I just

Speaker 1

stayed, yeah.

Speaker 3

Playing Yeezus for us over and over again. Yeah. Yeah.

Whether you wanted to hear it or not. Yeah.

Speaker 1

That's demo jail. Yeah, it

Speaker 3

was wild.

Speaker 2

Interesting. Wow.

Speaker 3

That's

Speaker 1

funny. I used to be, yeah, whatever. I had a guy like that, and he would play his album over and over in the car, and then in the house. And then you didn't

Speaker 3

want to say, no, you already played it for me. But I'll listen to it again. Give you another

Speaker 1

shot at it. Yeah.

Speaker 3

That

Speaker 1

was funny, because I saw Kanye, I was like, oh my god, is that Kanye? Like, was he around back then? I guess he was.

Speaker 3

He must

Speaker 1

have been pretty new.

Speaker 3

No, he was,

Speaker 1

yeah, he was pretty old, I think.

Speaker 2

One of the, whatever it is, yeah,

Speaker 3

whatever

Speaker 1

the answer is. But so anchorman,

Speaker 2

also your bandmates on that, which you've worked with a lot, Paul Rudd, who's awesome, obviously. Steve Carell, Carell's so funny. Carell got a great funny part,

Speaker 1

yeah.

Speaker 2

Koechner, yeah,

Speaker 3

it was a great group. Koechner, and McKay, who we'd met at SNL, and so it was, it was a

we really,

Speaker 2

we just

Speaker 3

felt like we were playing with the house's money, and, you know, they had, DreamWorks had said no to it initially, and then later came back, and,

Speaker 1

and,

Speaker 3

yeah, yeah, they had, a bunch of people had passed on it. I think we had ten or fifteen different financiers or studios pass on it in one, in one day. It was a great, it was a great day.

Speaker 1

That's a horrible,

Speaker 3

did you hear about this one? Yeah, that's a pass. Okay, good.

Speaker 1

But you go excitedly pitch it to everyone, and then you just hear pass, pass, pass, pass,

Speaker 3

pass. The call should be coming in. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. Oh my god,

Speaker 1

that's sickening, because it almost doesn't ever work after that. If one passes, it gets like a stink to it, like the other one's here, and they go, oh, oh, something's bad about it, oh, we don't want it either. So you do that, is it, what happened, the health came out or something, and they go,

Speaker 3

oh,

Speaker 1

well, we'll risk it now?

Speaker 3

No, it was old school. Old school, oh. It came out, and they thought, Oh, wait, we have this other script with him.

Speaker 1

We should do something. We like

Speaker 2

it.

Speaker 3

We like it. Hey,

Speaker 2

that made money. Let's, let's do a chart. And then we take it back. We

Speaker 3

take it back. We like the thing about the newscasters.

Speaker 2

but we were

Speaker 3

trying, they just couldn't wrap their heads around it that it'd be funny. And I was trying to say, it's, it's, it's kind of what Austin Powers will be to the spy genre. You know, it's like,

but anyway, so when we finally got to make it, it was, we were like, let's just hurry, let's just shoot what, because they may shut us down at any point.

Speaker 1

Movies do the best feel like that's, and then it, it was one of those where I'm guessing, you know, the last couple takes, do whatever you want. Just keep doing shit. Just act stupider and stupider. And then someone's got to pick. The one that you live with forever, but then you go, God, there was five other ones that were just as ridiculous.

Did you

Speaker 2

ride that way? I mean, cause were you on 35 millimeter film in the nineties? And then you get on the Anchorman set or whatever, and you got digital for the first time or no? When did digital come in?

Speaker 3

Not till Anchorman 2, yeah. Oh, because then you could improvise

Speaker 2

for 20 minutes.

Speaker 3

But we would, we would do it anyway, just run out. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Cause it's expensive. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3

And, but yeah, we would just, we would just go until we heard that film run out and, and go to the line producer and just say, you gotta, you know, can you give us cover here? We just need more film stock. I don't know what else to say.

and luckily they, they, the studios usually once you got going, they were, they were okay.

Speaker 1

Or they see the dailies, they know something's happening. Yeah. And, Talladega Nights is another monster. So that one. No questions, just wanted you to get the applause. And,

Speaker 2

and

Speaker 1

Riley, was that one of the first with Riley, or he was also in, I saw, Anchorman? No, so

Speaker 3

John, John did, the table read for Anchorman, and we really wanted him to be in it, and he was doing, he had to go do Gangs of New York or something, you know, some bullshit Scorsese thing. And, yeah, and, out here, priest! So, but,

Speaker 1

you know, it's good you guys wound up with that. Oh, and Step Brothers, so, you guys wound up in those, and, yeah,

so

Speaker 2

these are consistent, successful comedies, which isn't easy. Very, very hard to do.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's been, it's been good, which is why it's just fun to use your guys' podcast to announce my retirement. And, yeah.

Speaker 2

I, so, should we be honored? Do you feel

Speaker 1

like you're hogging all the good movies or something?

Speaker 3

Give

Speaker 1

someone else a chance. Yeah, I

Speaker 3

wanna, I wanna let, yeah. I wanna do, we should do a remake of, I've already forgotten it.

Speaker 2

The Farty Blood guy character. Warning

Speaker 1

Short.

Speaker 3

Warning Short,

Speaker 2

yeah.

Speaker 3

Your, your joke, I didn't, yeah. Warning Short?

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I mean. We should do a

Speaker 3

shot for shot remake of Warning Short. We

Speaker 1

could put a little more money, get a director.

Speaker 3

Get that same effects guy. Yeah, the effects

Speaker 1

guy.

Speaker 2

That guy's still around.

Speaker 1

It's, you ever have the sound guy get in your face? Hey man, we're just gonna, why are you up here?

I'm like, sir, sir, I, I got it. I'm, and they're like, it's gonna go right down your

Speaker 2

pants. Go up your butt hole. Where does

Speaker 1

it need to go?

Speaker 3

You wanna, you wanna waist? You want an ankle? What do you want?

Speaker 1

What do you want? You want an ankle? What do you like?

Speaker 3

Can I tape this to your chest? Is that alright?

Speaker 1

Do you want it up the b-hole? Do you know what that is?

Speaker 3

Do you mind holding this small microphone?

Speaker 1

Do you want to, do you want to put it in your beard, bury it in your beard?

Speaker 3

Do you mind swallowing this microphone?

Speaker 1

It would help, it would help production.

Speaker 3

I want to get the, the sound of your digestive juices. Can you learn how to use this boom mic?

Take it home with you on the weekend. Can you hold it just

Speaker 1

out of frame in your own room?

Speaker 3

It's a good arm exercise. It would

Speaker 1

help.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I used to feel sorry for those guys with the 40-foot boom.

Speaker 3

Oh.

Speaker 2

For like, just shaking, shaking like that. And

Speaker 1

I'm like, I got another funny idea. And they're like, motherfucker. Yeah,

Speaker 2

keep it rolling. This guy's

Speaker 1

triceps. And then

Speaker 3

they'll cut, and the guy's like.

Speaker 1

Lays down in convulsions.

Speaker 2

Yeah,

Speaker 1

yeah.

Speaker 2

We got it easy. God damn it. Oh, I have a question

Speaker 1

about.

Speaker 3

Don't you.

Speaker 1

Yeah,

Speaker 3

don't you feel the s- you'd be fired from every single job on a movie set except for the ones that we get to do,

right?

Speaker 1

Oh, like a real movie?

Speaker 3

That's what I feel like.

Speaker 2

Well, I mean, it seems like you were all, most of the time working with like-minded spirits and- No, no, I

Speaker 3

mean as an actor. All the other jobs are so much harder than just-

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3

Goofing around.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I would rather just goof around and have someone shoot it than-

Speaker 1

I could never do a real job, is that what you're

Speaker 3

telling me? No, wait.

Speaker 2

I didn't know you- Doesn't

Speaker 3

my question make sense? Yeah. No, I'm just saying, between like camera, director,

Speaker 1

well,

Speaker 3

the sound, all these other jobs,

Speaker 2

to

Speaker 3

be an actor, it's like, that's the easiest one. Oh,

Speaker 1

that's why they all hate us. Because they go, look at you, and they go, look at you coming in here, tra la la. Oh, do you have to memorize three lines? Yeah. And they're like, I'm like, give me a minute, and like, he's coming, you know, it's all that stuff. And they're all waiting, and then you walk out. Can I get a quick spritz of FinalNet? All right, ready.

Speaker 3

FinalNet.

Speaker 2

FinalNet? That goes with...

Speaker 1

Isn't that hairspray? It's

Speaker 2

on my mommy's dad. Are you,

Speaker 3

is that one of your guys' sponsors, FinalNet?

Speaker 1

Yeah. We have to call it. Hey, our sponsors

Speaker 2

are here, I think. Show of hands.

Speaker 1

Now, when you, I'm, I'm jump, I'm going to jump around here. I'm going to jump around

Speaker 2

here.

Speaker 3

Rapid fire.

Speaker 1

and, any, Norm was in Jeopardy with you a lot.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Any funny Norm stories or anything about Norm?

Speaker 3

Yeah, my God.

Speaker 1

Because, Jeopardy again, one of the big sketches that,

Speaker 2

one of those big sketches

Speaker 1

everyone remembers. Always funny. Daryl was funny and Norm was great.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the best Norm story was, I think it's the one where he's wearing, he comes back, he's wearing a big foam cowboy hat.

Speaker 2

He's

Speaker 3

like, that's funny, huh? What? Wearing a cowboy hat. And anyway, there's some beat where I, where I have to be super exasperated with him,

Speaker 1

and

Speaker 3

I yell at him, and we, and we get out of the sketch. And Norm comes running after him, he's like, hey, Will, everything okay?

I go, yeah, why? He's like, you, you, you seem kind of mad at me out there. I'm like, no, Norm. I'm act, we've done it. This is like the fourth time we've done the sketch. No, but that time it just seemed like you really were mad at me for some reason. I said, no, we're good. That's very, that's

Speaker 2

very Norm right there. That's his sense of humor. Yeah, he seemed kind of mad there for a moment, right?

Speaker 3

But he was not, I don't think he was doing a, he wasn't, he might have been serious that you were screaming.

Speaker 1

He

Speaker 2

was also very sensitive in that way too. He was very

Speaker 3

shaken,

Speaker 2

yeah.

Speaker 3

And then,

Speaker 1

cause you can commit hard and you probably scared him.

Speaker 3

Another Norm, another great Norm story has nothing to do with Quebec was, and Catan told me about it. They were on a flight together back LA to New York. Chris had taken off his shoes,

and he can't find his shoes. They're about to land, can't find his shoes. He's going to the flight attendant, have you seen my shoes? I took them off. It's like, I don't know. He's like, Catan's like, Norm, come on. You took my shoes. No, I didn't. I didn't take your shoes. Why would I take your shoes? It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I've never taken, I would never. He's like, come on, give me back my shoes. I know you took them. I know. Norm's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Katan has to walk through JFK.

Speaker 2

With no shoes?

Speaker 3

With no shoes, just in his socks. An entire season goes by, and then Katan and Norm are jousting back and forth about something. Yeah, they used to

Speaker 1

joust a little bit. And then

Speaker 3

Norm finally goes, oh yeah, one other thing, I did take your shoes.

That flight in November.

Speaker 1

Flight November.

Speaker 3

I took him, I threw him in the trash can, just so you know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's like, I saw his shoes there, right? I just, I kind of grabbed his shoes. So yeah, you

Speaker 3

were right. I had, I took his shoes. He used to give Katan

Speaker 1

so much shit.

Speaker 3

Oh my

Speaker 1

god, yeah. He was tough. okay, let's see if we have anything else. Well, before we let you go. Oh, and the

Speaker 3

other, the other thing I was thinking about today, Downey used to give me the great, I loved being,

Speaker 1

sorry,

Speaker 3

Jim Downey,

Speaker 2

legendary

Speaker 3

writer who came up with Strategery. Oh,

Speaker 1

he did. And I had the

Speaker 2

A-Team too writing for me on, you know, with Al Frank and Jim Downey. Totally. Yeah.

Speaker 3

But Downey, I loved being in Downey sketches for a number of different reasons, but the best was between dress and air, and he'd do it every single time, and it, I would laugh hard every single time. He'd go, great job, take it down about a thousand percent.

And then I would just, yeah, Santa, be like, yeah, okay. And he's like, I don't know what happened, you must, you must have gotten into your big juice or something. But he would literally tell me to take it down a thousand percent.

Speaker 1

Worst advice, yeah.

Speaker 2

Did you?

Speaker 3

Made me laugh every single time. And he would

Speaker 1

never say he's joking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember one time I did a joke on Hollywood Minute about, with jokes, you know, they had some, some had a little more of a, some were clever, some had a little mean streak, but I did a Jim Carrey one. The funniest part is I liked 99% of the people on Hollywood Minute. Of course.

Speaker 3

The Jim

Speaker 1

Carrey, I was just trying to get foot in the door at SNL and, whatever it took, but Jim was doing these, you know, the movies that I loved, but I said, and they would always prod me to go farther.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 1

Cause it was like through them, I dare you, you know, so. I said, oh, Jim, Jim Carrey after this, one of his movies just rushed to the hospital after an overdose of,

overacting pills with plate two big juice. And, and the crowd just stared at me. And it was, it was too soon.

Speaker 3

Don't,

Speaker 1

don't mess with our fucking guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was

Speaker 3

like,

Speaker 1

no, I love, you know, and anyway, that was cut after Dress. But, but Jess Harrison was a good, but that was those guys and they, they would write me the roughest

Speaker 3

Hollywood minute jokes at like

Speaker 1

the rewrite table. They go, Jim would be like, oh, you would never. Well, no, you're too much of a pussy. And I go, no, I'm not. What? And then he'd tell me, I go, yeah, I'm too much of a pussy. You're, I'm not saying that. He goes, of course, cause you're a pussy. And I go, why? And, but it was all whatever he wanted to say and get the anger out and get to me.

Well, then

Speaker 2

they hide behind the whole thing. I know,

Speaker 1

that's right. So funny. They get to say whatever they want, but. I would have to sort of temper it, but always funny. I mean, they're always just, they're just fucking wrong.

Speaker 3

Wait, one last Norm Macdonald story. Sorry.

Speaker 2

Love him.

Speaker 3

do you remember the Mama Celeste frozen pizza commercials?

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

No, I don't.

Speaker 3

And it was this, and she would say, Abondanza, which is a made-up marketing word. There's no, there's no lyric in the Italian language. I thought

Speaker 1

that was genuine Italian. Yeah.

Speaker 3

And one day we're sitting around in the writer's room having lunch, and we're doing a bit where I'm like, hey guys, this lunch is pretty good. Abondanza, right? And everyone goes, yeah, Abondanza. And Norm's sitting there like, Norm, come on, just say it. Say Abondanza. Like, no, I'm not going to say it. Like, come on, Norm, just say it. Abondanza.

I won't do it. Not going to say it. We get like 15 of us like, come on, Norm, it'd be rude now. We've all said Abondanza. You should just say Abondanza. No, I don't want to say it. I'm not going to say it. I won't say it. You never would say it. Anyway, that's the end of the story. But...

Yeah.

Speaker 1

All right. Well, I think we... I think we were going to have a few people

Speaker 2

ask this

Speaker 1

question.

Speaker 2

Hey, a penny saved is a penny earned, they say, right? That's like a hundred percent return. You can't get that anywhere, you know.

Speaker 1

I was just

Speaker 2

talking on the phone with Norm, you know. You know, you should bury some money, right? Cause then later on your relatives will dig it up and they'll have money, right? He just had the driest, funniest vibe. I

Speaker 3

didn't have a TV the first year that I was on the show cause I just didn't buy one cause I thought I'm never going to be in my apartment. So I'd go and watch the NBC sports feed

on like a Sunday. Norm, of course, is in there.

And Norm enjoyed gambling on sports. And we were watching some game and I'm like, gotta watch out, you know, University of Cincinnati.

They're, they're pretty good in the mud. I was like, really? And I go,

yeah. I think they're like 750 winning percentage in rainy games. I didn't know that. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1

Logs it away.

Speaker 3

I think we're doing a bit.

Speaker 2

Right,

Speaker 3

right,

Speaker 1

right.

Speaker 3

It's no way. How do I know that's up? Week later, Norm's like, you cost me thirty-five grand.

I'm like, doing what, what do you mean? Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati in a month. Like, what? You said they were really good and rainy, rainy. I'm like, you bet on, I was joking.

Speaker 1

And you bet that much?

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Why are you

Speaker 3

telling me that amount too?

Speaker 2

That's like when Norm asked Lovitz for, give me, give me two hundred dollars so they're playing a casino. You know, he's like, John's like, okay. So the next day, John, huh? Len, Len. And he goes, yeah, yeah. And then Lovitz like, can I get my money back? And he goes, no, no, I lost that, I lost all of it. He goes, why are you mad? I lost eight thousand dollars.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he goes, you only lost 200.

Speaker 2

You only lost 200. We love Norm. There was only one Norm, and a comedy genius.

Speaker 1

So Will

Speaker 2

Ferrell, Dana,

Speaker 1

I think he went, they want to ask a few questions in the audience, then we'll get Will at his limo.

Speaker 2

I was just going to butter up Will. I was going to say to Will, because he loves sports,

Speaker 3

like

Speaker 2

if I was going to do a sports team of SNL stars, you know, I'd put you at the power forward. Oh,

Speaker 3

okay.

Speaker 2

And maybe an Ackroyd or Phil at the center. Maybe Bill Hader. After that, I never try to pick SNL people, because then I go, fuck Adam Sandberg, I miss him. But I would, you, Lawrence said that about you. No. He's a top two at least.

Speaker 1

Top two?

Speaker 2

Well, is he possibly one? I'm not going to say, but he's a top two. Top three. Top

Speaker 3

three. Where in that three, I don't know.

Speaker 2

We don't know.

Speaker 1

I feel, I feel like the general consensus is me, Dana, Will. In the history of SNL.

Speaker 3

And

Speaker 1

sometimes it mixes up Will Dana me. But we're up there, man. It's lonely, but we're up there.

Now, I was sort of an intern there for six years.

Speaker 2

David Spade plays the little engine that could, but when you've got an incredible career, who did World Missy 800 million minutes?

Speaker 1

800

Speaker 2

million minutes. That's

Speaker 1

how it goes now. Six billion minutes. That's a hit. That feels good. I don't know. It sounds like a lot of minutes.

Speaker 2

Yeah, six billion minutes. It's the biggest

Speaker 3

film in Chile.

Speaker 1

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2

They love you in Uruguay, kid.

Speaker 1

I can't step foot in Bulgaria.

Speaker 3

Lower Mongolia.

Speaker 1

Go out there. We're going to ask Will. We'll get four questions from the audience and then Will, you don't even have to answer if you don't want. Just make them feel stupid.

All right, does anyone have a question? And then he'll run out there and then, oh, we got one over there. Let me see. Oh, wait, too late. He was over there.

Speaker 4

Oh, no, I'm over here. Hello. do you guys have a favorite sketch that literally just never made it even past pitch? Like, not something that got cut for time or cut from rehearsal, but you pitched it and you thought it was great and it just did not go over. I,

Speaker 3

I, I had a sketch that, that tops my list. I had written a sketch about a guy who looks exactly like Gabe Kaplan from Welcome Back, Cotter. And Colt, he's, he's a super, and he works in an insurance, he works, the insurance company he works for, he knows that Gabe Kaplan is a client. And it's the day that Gabe Kaplan came in to renew his insurance coverage, but no one told him.

No one told my character that Gabe Kaplan was there. And, I was...

Speaker 1

How did this not get on? Are you sure this doesn't get on? It

Speaker 3

got on. It got on to dress.

Speaker 1

But

Speaker 3

it was so silent. At one point, there's the smallest laugh in the world, like kind of in the upper deck there, you just hear,

But it died so hard. So that was... It... It worked great at the table. I have one quickie,

Speaker 1

which was a guy, I'm sorry, buddy. Kurt, he was obsessed with Kurt Cobain after his death, and I worked at Baskin Robbins, and I wouldn't wash my hair. And Bob Odenkirk and I wrote it, and it was, Kurt, every time I was trying to name ice creams after him, and then when people come in, they go, my manager goes, you gotta wash your hair. I go, no, Kurt, he, Kurt and dirt, you can't wash him away.

And then, again, crickets, but that was crickets at read-through. With Odenkirk, who's a great writer, and, it was a fully formed sketch, and it just,

Speaker 2

didn't work. On season two, we're doing, we're doing a press conference, and they said, do you have any new catchphrases to me? So I just said, my new catchphrase is, I got to, got to, got to go, right?

So I wrote a sketch called Funny Little Poopy Head, and I was Mr. Funny Little Poopy Head, Jan, Jan Hooks was Miss, and it was really, if it had gotten on, I would have enjoyed it, but it was just to hear Lorne say Funny Little Poopy Head. So there was so much stage direction, and Lorne Michaels had to say that thing like, Funny Little Poopy Head walks across the room, that kind of, and my, and then he goes, I got to, got to, got to go, and then Jan Hooks' hook was, and I'm going with him.

Never made it to air, only at the Largo.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

All right, next one, Greg, anybody? They're slow to the,

Speaker 2

oh, Greg's here.

Speaker 5

Yeah, hey, you did, College Game Day in 2010 with Lee Corso. What was he like?

Speaker 3

Is, is that for me?

Speaker 1

I don't think I did. I

Speaker 2

don't remember I being in it, so.

Speaker 1

Was that you?

Speaker 3

Oh,

Speaker 2

it was a film called College Game Day. No, College Game Day.

Speaker 3

Would that have been outside the Coliseum?

Oh, before the SC Oregon game, yeah.

Speaker 1

Oh, easy rain, man. Are you wearing

Speaker 2

an

Speaker 3

N95?

Speaker 1

Yeah. Or, or,

Speaker 2

yeah, yeah, definitely outside the Coliseum. Yeah, yeah, course, course, I'm an excellent driver. I don't

Speaker 3

remember having much interaction with Lee, I'm sure he was nothing but lovely.

Speaker 2

What about Lee Van Cleef? Did you ever do anything with Lee Van Cleef?

Speaker 1

Lee

Speaker 3

Van Cleef.

Speaker 2

This

Speaker 1

young man, you've had your hand up for so long, go ahead.

Speaker 3

I think for the podcast, yeah.

Speaker 6

Thank you, thank you. hi, well, Dana, do you, you guys were part of a video where you played, the Bushes.

Speaker 3

Oh, all the presidents. For

Speaker 6

all the presidents, for Ron Howard. Do you guys have any stories about that? And David, will there be a, a sequel to that movie?

Speaker 1

Don't make up a question for me, you love these too.

He's

Speaker 2

huge and chilly.

Speaker 1

And David, you're taking an Uber home. Well, first of all, that

Speaker 2

was with Funny or Die, for Funny or Die. That was

Speaker 3

for Funny or Die about passing legislation. Yeah, some legislation.

Speaker 2

And I remember we just did our characters one at a time. We

Speaker 3

had all, everyone who'd played a president on SNL.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we even had Dan Aykroyd do Bob Dole, I think. Well, I know he was there.

Speaker 1

Bob Dole.

Speaker 3

Aykroyd.

Speaker 1

Or was it Nor?

Speaker 2

Aykroyd

Speaker 3

did Jimmy.

Speaker 2

Oh, Jimmy Carter? Jimmy

Speaker 3

Carter.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, probably Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 3

Oh, did you Nixon?

Speaker 2

Oh, God, he did a lot, yeah.

Speaker 3

Chevy did Ford.

Speaker 2

Chevy did Ford.

Speaker 3

Fred did Obama.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 3

Wow. Oh,

Speaker 1

wow. You

Speaker 2

carry the wrong way, huh? I just remember when I was doing something and you said you liked it afterwards. I don't, I was just ad-libbing as George Bush Senior and the phrase came out, he went full fecal.

I don't remember what it meant, but I remember it came out after him, like the full fecal part.

You just remember things. Full

Speaker 3

fecal.

Speaker 2

Full fecal. Gotta die. Fecalkation.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I'm getting more relaxed all the time. I know. Yeah.

Speaker 1

We're finally relaxed. We got one more question. All right.

Speaker 4

hey, this is Fruel. whenever you're on SNL, you would often go on Conan as different characters. You would never come on as yourself. was Conan aware of this? Cause I feel like he was not in on the bit, and he was often surprised when you would do this.

Speaker 3

No, he was just very good at acting and playing along, because they, that, I mean,

Speaker 1

did you ever try to surprise him with anything?

Speaker 3

But then you

Speaker 2

would ad-lib and stuff. Yeah, it

Speaker 3

might have been, cause Conan and that whole stuff, they were so into, please, do whatever you want. Yeah, yeah, they, that was like the greatest show to go on, that early Conan, cause they were just embrace any sort of bit. It was like, I got, you know, I have an idea where I want to get in a drum off with a kid drummer. And he's gonna be much better than I am, and then I'm gonna chase him out of the state, you know? And they're like, yep, let's do it.

okay, I have another bit where I want, can you, can you set up a pull-up bar, and I wanna do, I wanna do a setup where I'm gonna do as many pull-ups as I can do, and I'll give ten thousand dollars to charity, and I can't even get one pull-up,

Speaker 1

you know?

Speaker 3

and I just struggle.

Speaker 2

So like

Speaker 3

fifteen

Speaker 2

seconds, and I, and I'm like, I can't

Speaker 3

get one. Oh well, too bad, March of Dimes, you know, whatever. But, no. They would, they would go for everything and

Speaker 2

it seems like you always had a gear where a lot of your stuff, if the sound broke, I call it funny with the sound off, it would still work, you know? Just because like, like the cowbell guy, just the way you were dancing around, like it, just all that. And Walken was good in that too, right?

Speaker 3

Yeah, he's, do you

Speaker 2

people know, is this true that you, you tried it out with different hosts and it never got on until Walken came around? I tried

Speaker 3

it, well, it's funny, it was the, the season before was Norm's last season, cause you guys were talking about it with Downey,

Speaker 1

the

Speaker 3

whole Norm getting fired. And, and then strangely enough, he comes back the next year to host.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, and he said they fired me. Yeah,

Speaker 3

but I tried it at the table with Norm as the record producer, and it worked fine, but it just didn't get it picked. And then I brought it back later going, oh no, I'm going to rewrite this for Walken.

Speaker 1

It's hard to do it twice.

Speaker 2

It's hard,

Speaker 3

yeah.

Speaker 2

I was there that night. I was doing a guest spot or something, and

Speaker 3

I remember

Speaker 2

that destroying and...

Speaker 3

Yeah, and we were way over in the dead corner there. People don't know,

Speaker 1

that's

Speaker 3

the worst.

Speaker 1

What

Speaker 2

was the... I mean, how did that come out? Just suddenly? Because it's such a bizarre, incredibly inexplicable idea. That's why it's just as funny now. You could watch it 20 years later. It looked

Speaker 1

funny.

Speaker 3

Yeah, listening to Blue Oyster Cult on the radio,

Speaker 2

hearing that faint

Speaker 3

cowboy going, does that guy have any friends? You know?

Is that the only song he ever got to play cowboy on? And then I'd always, I'm like, I'm going to write that as a sketch. It's nothing you can pitch. And so I write it and I rewrote it for For Walken, I'm just like, oh, I know that if Christopher Walken says, I have a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell, only he can make, get a laugh off of that.

Speaker 1

You, you can't lose, cause the stiffer he does it, the more he's married to the cue cards. I have a fever.

Speaker 3

Yeah,

Speaker 1

yeah. And the, oh, and you're like, you're like phonetically almost getting through it, and it's so fucking funny.

Speaker 3

And I remember, I remember,

Speaker 2

is Kevin Pollak here? Could you do Christopher Walken? I think he, is he here?

Speaker 1

Oh, is he here?

Speaker 2

Oh,

Speaker 3

Kevin Pollak. So this is the world's

Speaker 2

greatest Christopher Walken impression. Oh,

Speaker 1

shit. I have a fever.

Speaker 2

Prescription is more cowbell. You. Kevin Pollak.

Speaker 3

Kevin Pollak. Kevin Pollak

Speaker 6

happened to be here.

Speaker 3

But you would, you would say to Walken, you go, hey Chris, you're just killing it. You're so funny and everything. He'd be like, we should have Kevin do it. Really? Because I have,

Speaker 2

I, I

Speaker 3

have no idea. I just say the lines.

Speaker 1

He doesn't even get the sketch.

Speaker 3

And I was like, well, you're doing great.

If you say so. Okay.

Speaker 2

Like I got in trouble for complimenting.

Speaker 3

Yeah. For

Speaker 2

cowbell. I'm, I'm just doing Kevin now, but, but yeah, there was something magic about that thing. Anyway, that was something special. I like those

Speaker 1

ones that live on forever. Those are great.

Speaker 2

Yeah. So Will Ferrell, you are one of the all time and you, you're, you're still going strong. I don't know what you're doing next, but I was going to ask you, what's the longest break you've had in the last 25 years from doing show business? It seems like you've been, did you have six months off at one time? Oh,

Speaker 3

sure. So you

Speaker 2

take breaks, and what do you do during your breaks? You ran three marathons.

Speaker 3

Long time ago.

Speaker 1

I... That was

Speaker 2

just a passion? Yeah,

Speaker 3

just wanted to run. I retired in '03, and, No one

Speaker 2

wouldn't take you back.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 1

Are your kids all taller than me yet?

Speaker 3

Oh, they're... My 13-year-old, my 13-year-old will dominate. Yeah.

Speaker 1

I know kids are 11 when they're taller than me. I'm like, I just,

Speaker 2

they just hang out. I'm,

Speaker 3

I love, I'm Uber driver for my kid, you know, I have a sophomore in high school go to his basketball games. I just love it. Yeah.

Speaker 2

10, 11, 12 and you're driving him to school and I play a day in the life for them.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

You know, and they play me hip hop and stuff, which is a fair exchange. But it's a lot of fun and cool bonding because I was noticing my kids weren't talking to me in the car at a given age when I'm driving them to school. And then I would put on AM news radio, and a man was killed today and shot blood was flying. And they're like, dad, what was, what was that? What's going on? So that really would open them up, but you must have had experiences like that.

Maybe it was, but truly you must have made them fancy.

Speaker 3

And we, we've made a concerted effort to just take the whole summer off every, no matter what I'm working on. So we go,

I do that

Speaker 2

too.

Speaker 3

We go to Sweden, of all places, every summer. So we have, my wife's Swedish, we have a place out there. The boys all speak Swedish, they hang out with their cousins. Oh, that's

Speaker 2

too cool. So they're just bonded with Sweden. Yeah. That's hip.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Isn't most of life just, I, I feel like even really busy people, most of life is hanging out and talking, kind of? Absolutely.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Isn't that what we do most of the time? I mean, we work and stuff, but

Speaker 1

you're just kind

Speaker 2

of trying to watch something on TV with your wife, I mean,

Speaker 3

you

Speaker 2

watch live streaming

Speaker 3

shows.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Do you watch, All Creatures Great and Small? If you want Liquid Xanax, this is this brilliant show that's just so... But I thought, I thought

Speaker 3

the Beatles documentary was that too, in a way.

Speaker 2

Oh my god. We talk about that sometimes.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Unreal. Well, you know, it's nice of you to say

Speaker 2

that. We, you know, I do am a bit older now. You know, we appreciate, we appreciate that you like it, you know. But we were just lads plunking.

Speaker 3

I don't know. I don't know who that is. Is that Billy Preston?

Speaker 1

It's Billy Idol. Did you see McCartney, Will, when you were on SNL?

Speaker 3

Did what? Did you

Speaker 1

see McCartney? Was he on when you were on?

Speaker 3

I don't know if he was. I think he

Speaker 2

was 93,

Speaker 3

right? He was

Speaker 1

on, I know, when I was there with...

Speaker 3

He must have been. I know Mick Jagger.

Speaker 1

Oh. Jimmy

Speaker 3

did that Mick Jagger. Okay, Edgar.

Speaker 2

Oh, I came in Lauren's office. This happens to you at Saturday Night Live once. Lauren's office in 8H, just during the, and I just walked in, and no one told me. And then just Mick Jagger's just sitting there with a little sweater and corduroy pants on and combed hair, you know. Lauren likes to

Speaker 1

blindside you with a big star.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Well, he likes to, collect China in different, coffee cups. Tell him about your

Speaker 1

stamp collection, Mick. He's

Speaker 2

very, what you would call, erudite. The,

Speaker 3

the dinner, the dinner where Lauren tried to convince me to stay longer.

Speaker 1

Yeah,

Speaker 3

who was

Speaker 2

there?

Speaker 3

He kept saying, Mick may stop by. And now, I'm like, okay. That's what

Speaker 1

I tell people, but he never stops by. All

Speaker 3

right. And we keep talking. He's like, so Mick, you know, he could, cause they, they produce some movie together. Right. And, I'm like, yeah, fine, okay. And then all of a sudden, Lauren's eyes go wide. He's here. He's here. Okay. You, you sit there, and I'll, no, no, no, no, no, I'll sit here, I'll sit here, I'll sit like this, and you sit over there.

No, no, no, you sit, hi, Mick, hello, hi, yes. And I sat, no,

Speaker 2

move, move, move, don't be an idiot. Did you always have to guess when he said Paul, because there were two Pauls, Paul Simon, Paul McCartney, Paul's coming over, which one? Paul, that'd be McCartney. I sat

Speaker 3

there awkwardly for 45 more minutes.

Speaker 2

With Mick,

Speaker 3

no, Mick showed up, and I didn't know what to, once again, I didn't know what to say.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And then the next day at rehearsal, Lorne was like, wasn't that the greatest dinner? And I think he was just excited that he said a celebrity was going to show up, and they actually showed up.

Speaker 1

What was

Speaker 2

your most Star Trek moment? You know, I, for me, like meeting Charlton Heston was a big deal. You know, like, whoa. You know, cause you meet these hosts and they're sitting down there and then they go, would you like to go say hello to Robert Mitchum? Sure. You know, it's like you're walking down the hall. Marcy

Speaker 1

would come in, get in there, Sharon Stone, no one's in there. I'm like, okay. And then you go in there. She's alone,

Speaker 2

she needs help. That's Marcy's wrong. She's

Speaker 1

reading a magazine. She's like, what? I'm like, I'm supposed to, I don't know. You know what I mean? You know, Marcy. They should have done me

Speaker 3

with George W. They called me. He was in the studio cause they were going to tape one of those election specials and they had Gore do his part.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 3

Clear the studio, then they bring W in there. They call me at home. They're like, get down here.

W's a huge fan. Wants to meet you. And I just started doing the impression and I was like, okay, okay. I go down to 8H, there's 100 reporters, everything.

It was like Ayala and Marcy, like,

Speaker 1

go, go up there, just go and

Speaker 3

talk

Speaker 2

to him. And I'm

Speaker 3

like,

Speaker 1

hi,

Speaker 3

hi, I'm Will. I could tell he has no idea that I'm the guy who plays him. Because

Speaker 2

you hadn't done it during the debates. Exactly. Okay.

Speaker 3

So it was fledgling. It was fledgling and then, he doesn't know me from, he could care less. And,

Speaker 1

we

Speaker 3

both just did this to each other.

Speaker 1

You did Roxbury?

Speaker 2

How did you,

Speaker 3

did

Speaker 1

you awkwardly say Abu Danza? I

Speaker 3

go, thanks, thanks so much for doing this. Yeah. This is,

you got a lot, is this a hectic work week for you?

Yeah, it's, it's a busy week. Seems like a lot. But you could tell he was stressed to be there. It was just like,

Speaker 2

and Al Gore was there too. Al

Speaker 3

Gore was there and commanding the room.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3

He seemed...

Speaker 2

We're gonna put it in a log box.

Speaker 3

He was like totally presidential.

Speaker 2

But then when

Speaker 3

they debated, it flipped. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, W... Yeah, well, whatever. How did you... Like, was... Did you have to study tapes, or you just kind of got it just by watching him?

Speaker 3

Watching. Daryl Hammond helped me a little bit. Tightening

Speaker 2

the neck, right?

Speaker 3

That and sweating the eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

But you could... You did kind of look like him when you got the whole gear on.

Speaker 3

But I think it got better over time, but at first it was not... Same with me. It wasn't that great.

Speaker 2

Only Ross Perot was quick, because it was such a cartoon right away. Can I finish one time? Can I finish one time?

Can I finish? One time. That's all it needed. Just that. James, basically James Brown. Can I, can I do it on the one? Can I do it on the one? Get on up like a sex machine. Sorry. Just stick. Phil

Speaker 3

Harman playing Admiral What's-His-Face or

Speaker 1

whatever he did.

Speaker 3

Which

Speaker 2

one? No. Stockdale.

Speaker 1

Is

Speaker 3

that it?

Speaker 2

Stockdale. Where

Speaker 1

we, where

Speaker 3

I

Speaker 2

was driving him.

Speaker 3

You guys did the driving. Yeah, and

Speaker 2

then, yeah, why don't you take a walk over there? And then he's

Speaker 3

just going. Yeah,

Speaker 2

who am I? Where am I? Where am I? He was doing Scottsdale. He was confused. Politics is fun.

Speaker 1

All right, we got to let Will go. We should let Will go, right? We do?

Speaker 2

He wants to go on.

Speaker 1

What do you want to do?

Speaker 2

All right, can we do three questions? Favorite toy as a kid.

Don't think too hard.

Speaker 3

Probably Legos.

Speaker 2

Legos? Yeah.

Speaker 1

Wrong.

Speaker 2

His was Stretch Armstrong.

Speaker 1

Micronauts.

Speaker 3

Did you

Speaker 2

have a bicycle that you really liked?

Speaker 3

Yeah, Schwinn, Stingray. What was the

Speaker 2

TV show or movie where you... Why is

Speaker 3

that funny?

Speaker 1

Because I think he said, then he said, yeah, yeah, that one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that one. Well, the Schwinn was famous. Some people had Schwinn bikes.

Speaker 1

But he had a Sears

Speaker 2

front loader. My parents were out of the money.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So, you're a little kid, you're like eight, ten, eleven, and there's a TV show or a cartoon or a movie that just made you love show business or just blew your mind. I'll give you an example. Ben Stiller said it was the Poseidon Adventure. Like, that made him want to be a filmmaker.

Speaker 1

That was a cool movie.

Speaker 2

Gene Hackman. Well,

Speaker 3

I always loved Shelley Winters.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

She sure had a figure.

Speaker 3

Oh,

Speaker 1

yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I would say Poseidon Adventure

Speaker 1

2.

Speaker 2

Gene Hackman is unbelievable. He

Speaker 1

was great. It's

Speaker 2

a bear. That's how we'll live, a bear.

Speaker 1

One inch thinner. Drive, Kevin.

Speaker 3

I'll remember the real answer driving home after this, but the one thing I saw Jason

Speaker 2

and the Argonauts. It could be, you know, I saw those and Wild Wild West was kind of my age group.

Speaker 1

Land of

Speaker 3

the Lost I loved. But that didn't make me want to go into showbiz.

Speaker 2

Little House on the Prairie. Made me

Speaker 3

want to go into sh... No, no.

Speaker 2

What made you want to... Well,

Speaker 3

I loved...

Speaker 1

We're not leaving.

Speaker 3

No,

Speaker 2

this

Speaker 3

is... We went past the two-parter. The pressure's building.

Speaker 1

The nine-parter.

Speaker 3

I love... Okay, these are the shows I loved. I loved Happy Days with Vernon Shirley. That block on Tuesday nights.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Tuesday nights. By the

Speaker 2

way, and

Speaker 3

then I loved Saturday night was Fantasy Island Love Boat.

Speaker 1

Shit. Me too, me too.

Speaker 2

See, those are so relaxing. We need shows like that.

Speaker 3

But I wanted to live on the love boat. I wanted to be

Speaker 1

always happy,

Speaker 2

calm, and fun.

Speaker 3

Fun guests every week. And Julie,

Speaker 1

that coked up cruise director.

Speaker 3

Yep,

Speaker 1

she was great. Yeah, I watched that same block. Laverne and Shirley, Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley. Fonzie literally jumped the shark. I remember watching that. I made my mom watch it with us. I was like, watch. Isn't it

Speaker 3

funny to think that Henry Winkler, he was the coolest guy in America at that point in time. Couldn't

Speaker 1

believe it. It was so cool,

Speaker 3

yeah. And

Speaker 2

the toughest guy. I knew people thought he could beat up anyone. Well, the Fonz could beat up anybody. He never

Speaker 1

really got in a fight, to be honest. No, he just

Speaker 2

hit. He'd

Speaker 1

snap his fingers and they'd run or something.

Speaker 2

I don't want to date myself, but mine was Danny Kaye.

Speaker 3

He never could say he was sorry, right?

Speaker 1

Fonz.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought he

Speaker 1

couldn't say. Yeah, he couldn't say something. Maybe I love you. Maybe sorry.

Speaker 2

Let's call Hank Winkler.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Speaker 2

He's great in Barry.

Speaker 1

You know what? Let's look at a clip.

Speaker 2

No clips? He almost got

Speaker 1

it. Biff it up. You just got a little touch of bifida.

Speaker 3

I did.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Spinal bifida, that's what we're gonna name this episode. That's gonna be in the...

Speaker 1

It's like not funny, I don't know why we keep saying it. I

Speaker 3

know.

Speaker 2

Hey, let me, let me take it down, take it down as Denny Miller. I can't, thanks we heard from the spud man with the spinal bifida. Raspberries in the, sound effects guy's face. Feral laid down.

Speaker 1

The

Speaker 2

feral cat brought it heavy today. Yeah,

Speaker 1

you did bring it, man. You're funny as shit. My

Speaker 3

Lincoln Town car is waiting for me. I always request a Lincoln Town, a late model Lincoln Town car.

Speaker 2

Did you buy, did you buy something when you first got a million dollars? You buy a crazy car or anything?

Speaker 3

I, I bought a,

Speaker 2

something from the Elvis store. Elvis set

Speaker 1

list.

Speaker 2

Sorry, I don't

Speaker 1

wanna be the joke of the thing.

Speaker 2

It's all good fun, Davey. Okay,

Speaker 1

okay.

Speaker 3

I bought one of Elvis's guns, and I looked in the provenance, and it realized Spade was the previous owner.

Speaker 1

By the way, when he worked there, you were very polite, you were very nice. I don't think you said you were in comedy at all, I don't think you told me that. In fact,

Speaker 3

I still worked, I got hired at SNL, but, you know, they don't pay you till you show up. I had bills to pay, I was still answering the phones for like a month and a half. Did

Speaker 1

you have it transferred to your offices? Answering the phones

Speaker 2

at where?

Speaker 3

Here in LA, at the Art Auction House, and my co-workers were like, didn't you get on Saturday Night Live? I was like, yeah, but I don't leave till August, so I'm here.

Speaker 1

And they don't pay you anything. I read it said you were the highest paid cast member ever.

Speaker 3

I don't think so.

Speaker 2

They said it was, but what was your starting salary? Like when you first got on, do you remember? Cause there's a per

Speaker 3

show, it was per show,

Speaker 1

I'm guessing six thousand.

Speaker 3

It was something like that. It was fifty five or six.

Speaker 2

Forty five hundred times twenty, ninety grand, keep thirty, broke even.

Speaker 1

Easily.

Speaker 2

Star Center, I love, breaking even, man. I mean,

Speaker 3

nine

Speaker 1

hundred a week to write, fifteen hundred to bump if I got on update or

Speaker 2

something.

Speaker 3

And,

Speaker 2

But the male prostitution paid the bills.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I ran a glory hole on that eighteen. We

Speaker 2

don't want to go on that, that's specific. It was just you were a friendly guy, you were a gentleman. I

Speaker 3

never got that reference, cause they'd be, they'd be, if your son ever scored, they'd be like, oh, that was a real glory hole.

And I'm like, what does that mean? But, never mind. That's paid.

Speaker 1

All right, we're

Speaker 2

going to take a break and come back, with our guest today, Will. The second

Speaker 3

half will be better, second half of the

Speaker 1

show. Let's give everyone a five and then

Speaker 3

take five.

Speaker 1

See who stays.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna talk with a Swedish accent, the rest. Is this offensive, this accent?

Speaker 3

That is really authentic.

Speaker 2

I'm Nor,

Speaker 3

yeah.

Speaker 1

I'm a lot

Speaker 2

Norwegian, getting way into sweets.

Speaker 3

I know, that's a, that's a bad rivalry.

Speaker 1

Well,

Speaker 3

yeah.

Speaker 1

Is the Swedish chef get a lot of poontang in Sweden, be honest?

Speaker 3

Is he Muppet character?

Speaker 1

Yeah. Who else? Herndis, Herndis, Kerndis.

Speaker 3

With, from the Muppet Show with the human hands.

Speaker 1

Yeah. He was, that guy was talented. I knew that when I watched. That

Speaker 3

guy was talented. He

Speaker 1

could cook.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And he was, he had a presence. That

Speaker 2

made you want to be in show business, that character. That's

Speaker 3

the thing.

Speaker 1

God, that's your answer. Sesame Street.

Speaker 3

Sesame Street.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

All right. Well, they're turning the lights on. Okay. Okay. You guys, thank you. Thank you so much for hanging with us, our

Speaker 2

audience. The great Will Ferrell, thank you very much.

Speaker 1

This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes. Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts. No joke. Books.

Speaker 2

Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment.

Speaker 7

The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman, with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.