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  1. What Did Stella McCartney Do on Scottish Farm Mornings?4:45
  2. What Did Paul McCartney's Daughter Want Amy Poehler to Ask?13:29
  3. Why Did Paul McCartney Give Up Coil Winding for a Gig?23:55
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Oh, hi there, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Boy, we have, well, the most famous person in this studio and probably the most famous person I've ever met, Sir Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney is here, the Liverpudlian who was in the Beatles and in Wings and in our lives for our whole lives. And we're going to talk about a lot of great things today.

We're going to talk about whether or not Paul was taller than John. We're going to talk about Paul's love of animals. We're going to discuss what makes a great breakfast and how many berries are involved. And we are going to talk about Paul's new music, Boys of Dungeon Lane, the re -release and new songs that have just recently come out. Special edition.

We're going to get into music in general. Of course, it is Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney is music. Before we do this, we always like to speak to somebody who knows our guest, is a fan of our guest, or in this case, is the daughter of our guest. And we are speaking today to Stella McCartney. Stella McCartney, a huge talent, fashion designer, incredible creative mind who is just so funny and warm and witty and smart.

And we got the opportunity to talk to her. And we're going to see if Stella is going to give us a good question for her dad. So Stella.

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It is so good to talk to you. I'm sorry we were having some technical difficulties. Oh no, that's good. We were having some technical difficulties also. Am I speaking to you in England? Yes. Hi, Stella. Hi, Amy. I actually like you a lot. I can't believe it took this to get us together. I know. I've had the pleasure of being invited and dressed by you, but I've had the chance to go to many events where you have been, where we've, I've had like a very quick drive by.

And every time I've gotten a chance to spend time with you, I've really wanted more because I'm such a fan of you, your work, your creativity, how you conduct yourself in the world. And it's really, really nice to talk to you today. Thank you for talking to us. Likewise. Wow. That was a bit serious. That's freaked me out. Yeah. It got very serious.

Never do that again. Never. I know you Brits, you Brits, you can't, one compliment and you guys get real. Honestly, I'm nearly, I vomited a tiny bit in my mouth. I know. Well, you know, get used to it. I am great. I'll take it. Are you in the middle of a, of a show right now? Are we, what are we? It's perfect timing. Thanks for that. I have a show in about three days in Paris.

I'm not busy at all, Amy. So, you know, with the time difference and everything, it's perfect. It's brilliant. I was kind of wondering what I'd do tonight and this will just fill the hole. I mean, what I imagine is going through your mind right now with three days to go, but at three days to go before a show, what is left to do? Is it everything? Pretty much.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we, we only started last night, so I've got a lot of little, actually I've got children I'm using to help stitch some things now. They're not my own. She jokes. She just, obviously I'm a sustainable cruelty -free fashion brand. You grew up on a farm, right? I did. What was it like to grow up on a farm? What were your morning jobs? What did you have to do in the morning? Wow.

Well, in Scotland with my siblings, it was normally just self -entertainment. I used to take rocks and bang them on up and I'm not joking. I used to take rocks and I'd bang them on other rocks.

That's about it really. No, I read a lot of horse riding, but rocks on rocks. Yeah. And did you have to, did you like, I, I'm going to admit something. This is a very like suburban city girl thing I'm going to admit. So you might think less of me. I've never reached in under a hen to get an egg. Oh, I did it all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And never particularly enjoyable.

Not really one of my, a little scary. I would be a little afraid to get, do you have to ask the hen to move first or do you? Yeah. Yeah. In fact, not many people know this about me, but I'm very good at impersonating chickens. Really? Can we hear?

I'm quite good at, I can converse with a chicken amongst many other things. Um, I, so I'm, I'm bilingual in that respect, but I did have to get the eggs when I was young. Well, your parents, um, were like, it just seemed like they wanted so much to create a beautiful, like peaceful and loving childhood for you. And you know, it seemed like that's what they gave you.

And I'm talking to your dad today and you've probably spent the entirety of your life having people ask you questions and talk to you about your dad. And I, I, I, I wonder what it is like to have to kind of share your parents with the world. Yeah. It is. Yeah. It is quite weird. I mean, I've only ever known that to be honest. It's not like I've had another sort of experience.

That is my experience. And it's definitely trippy and weird and surreal, but I think also I was brought up, it was very extreme. You know, we were on a farm, it was just the six of us. And we were like in a tight, all in one room and mom was cooking and dad was shearing sheep and writing songs. And then we were on tour, you know, with like 200 ,000 people screaming at your parents.

Yeah. You all went on tour together. Yeah. Oh, how fun. How fun. Yeah. I was kind of angry when I was 18 because I was building friendships and I was kind of getting into the swing of my own thing. And I was like, what really? We have to go on a world tour. But it was, it's amazing. It's what it's actually one of the most, I think the biggest privileges actually of being in my situation is being able to just truly see the world from, you know, from that perspective, just try to travel and to see so many different cultures and people.

And, and also it was all very much built from love. You know, everything that my mom and dad did was like, came from a place of love, but I'm also not particularly like a look at me type. Mm -hmm. If you wouldn't, but if you can believe it. So actually when I went, for me going into fashion was a more creative way of doing things from just standing slightly behind the kind of spot, you know, I'm not an entertainer.

Imagine if I broke into song right now. Well, we did hear a chicken impression earlier. We did hear that impression. Well, let me hear your chicken. And what's your animal? Go on, I'll give you, I'll be kind. And what's your best animal? I don't know. I don't know. Everyone knows their best animal. Jesus. I don't, my best animal. Okay. You know what? Okay.

I'm going to, I'm going to try a cat for you. Wait, is this the first time you've ever impersonated a cat? In public? Yes. Wow. Okay. Well, you're welcome. And here's how I feel about cats. They're fine. I don't love them. I don't hate them. Of course. That's a cat at the door. Wait a minute. All right, here we go. Okay, go. Meow.

Meow. Meow. The beginning was very good. I think people are laughing because it's so good.

But you bring up something that I think is very interesting. A lot of people that have public facing jobs are actually kind of secretly introverted. People would probably be surprised to hear that you consider yourself at times introverted. I mean, I don't think, I wouldn't say I'm introverted. That's going a little far. I'm just not, I look, my example of an extrovert is a Paul McCartney.

So it's not like, oh, I'm an introvert. I mean, I'm not compared to him. I'm an introvert. You know, I grew up with around SNL comedians. So I, you know, some of those, as you know, better than anything are extrovert and others really aren't, but they're still performers. Yeah. You know, I want to talk to your dad about that because he's around SNL all the time.

I mean, he's basically. I can't get rid of him. I'm like, again? Really? Jesus. Play hard to get a little bit. No, I am. I actually went to the one, the end of last season. It was great. It was really good fun with Will Farrell. So he had Will on. I was like, I am coming because obviously, and I saw Will on your show. You guys were brilliant.

And I was like, dad, and on the way over there, I was, I was talking, I said, dad, you please tell me you're going to like get Will on and to do the cowbell. And he was like, what cowbell? I'm like, what? What cow? Like, you know, the cowbell sketch. Anyway. So then he did, but then he got Will to do cowbell. He did. Again, you're welcome.

Thank you, Stella. He didn't really give me credit, which is annoying.

Well, I mean, I want to talk to him about Lauren and that relationship at SNL because you're, you're right. I mean, he, he was around a lot and their, their affection for each other is very sweet. Like they, you know, I'm, I mean, honestly, you know, there, when you get to a point in life where you become, you know, you're friends with people for 40, 50, 60 years and it, there's so much history there and it's really sweet to hear them talk about each other.

They are very, very good old friends, actually. I mean, they do yoga. You've heard about yoga boys, right? I like that. You call them yoga boys. They're the yoga boys. They call themselves the yoga boys. To be honest to God, actually, no, I must get them t -shirts for Christmas. Yoga boys, not even yoga men, yoga boys. Yes. Because they're always learning.

They're in a, they're in a beginner's mind. Childlike for sure. So, um, what is a question, uh, I should ask him like anything like a story that he would want to tell or, um, something you still don't know about him or, um, anything you think I should not talk to him about. That's always helpful too. No, he's pretty, he's pretty approachable.

I would say, yeah, I mean, I can think of things that you shouldn't ask him, but you won't ask him those. And if you do, it'll be hilarious to watch. I just going to watch that unfold quite frankly. Um, I've got two questions. Am I allowed to question? Yes, of course. The first one I think is, is, um, I guess I just want to kind of start by saying, you know, my dad is truly a living legend.

Like he really is an absolute icon. He's inspired so many generations of so many people and his impact on, you know, planet earth has been just gigantic. Like he continues to just give and give and give. And I think he does that through lyrics, you know? So one thing that before my question, I just wanted to read out some of my favorite and like deep, you know, most meaningful lyrics by him.

So, so I sat in the attic, a piano up my nose and the wind played a dreadful cantata, cantata, cantata. Sore was I from a crack of an enemy's hose and the horrible sound of tomato, tomato, tomato. Ketchup, ketchup, soup and puree, soup and puree. Don't get left behind. Don't get left behind. Ketchup, ketchup, soup and puree, soup and puree.

Don't get left behind. Now it continues. It continues. If you want a little more, my piano was boldly outspoken in attempts to repeat his refrain. So I stood with a knot in my stomach and I gazed at that terrible sight of two youngsters concealed in a barrel, smoking Monkberry Moon Delight.

My first question, I think for my father is, have you ever smoked Monkberry Moon Delight? And what is it? Fantastic question. It's from my favorite album. From Ram. Which actually is my mom and dad. Yeah. I think my mom shared in those lyrics, actually. I think she can take a bit of credit there too. It's called Monkberry Moon Delight. Great.

And it does go on. And in fact, there's a bit about cats and kittens there and it's a good one. So that's probably my first question. Has he ever smoked Monkberry Moon Delight? And what the fuck do those lyrics mean?

So that's my first question. Okay, great. What is that about? My other question, which is serious, which actually I asked my dad this the other day and I want to see how he answers it to you because I was really surprised by the answer, like really surprised. And so this is my gift to you, this question, which is what is your first memory, dad? Ah, beautiful.

And I really want to know what he answers to you because I was like, wow, that's great. What a great question to ask someone. I think your dad will be very happy that we talked because I hope he feels like I've gotten some good advice. I love that you asked me. I feel very honored. Like on a serious, seriously, I feel very, very honored that you asked me because you'd let's face it, you could have asked anyone to ask Paul McCartney a question and everyone would have said yes.

Actually, that's amazing. You asked me, Amy. Thank you. Of course. Thank you for doing it. And we'd love to get you into the stude. I have not had a designer and I feel like I would. Okay, great. Good. And good luck with dad. I hope those questions are okay. They're perfect. Well, much love to you, darling, and take care. Thank you for having me.

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Hi, Paul. Hey, Amy. Do you get this a lot where people are kind of nervous around you and you feel the energy and you have to figure out how to make them feel less nervous? Like that must be a thing you're used to. Yeah. Do you have a trick? No, exactly. Yeah. A trick? I don't know, just to kind of be normal. Yeah. Um, you know, I was lucky.

I was one of those guys, I grew up with a kind of very normal family. Yeah. You know, it was one of those families where you get past the baby. Yeah. So, whereas I know some people when they grow up like, and they have a baby, they're like, really scared of it. It's like, oh no, you know. So, so that I think I just use that. It's so funny you say that because of the many things I want to talk to you about today.

You seem very comfortable around babies. Yeah. I think so. Because that iconic photo of you, I think with Mary and your jacket, that was so ahead of its time. Yeah. Like you, a man carrying a baby. You just never saw it. Yeah. Never saw it. I mean, that was just how we used to do it. You know, I used to go riding with her like that. Yeah.

On the horse. But, um, yeah. I'm in the 70s. Well, she's now a mother of four boys. Oh man, she's busy. That little baby in my jacket. Oh, okay. Well, Paul McCartney is here. You have such a wild life and timeline that is kind of like intimidating to talk to you for just an hour and a half. So if you'll bear with me, I'll probably jump around a lot.

Mm -hmm. Okay. And the reason why is because I have this theory that you're a bit of a time traveler, I think. Do you believe in time travel? No. Oh. Then forget my theory. A little bit. I feel like sometimes I wasn't the age that I was. I felt older or younger. You can see someone about that. I mean, there's people to talk to. No, no. I kind of know what you mean.

Yeah. I mean, I felt like, I feel like you're, I don't know, you seem, you seemed when you were young that you were older. Yeah. If that makes any sense. No, it does really. And I used to look at the lyrics of yesterday. I'm not half the man I used to be. Suddenly I'm not half the man I used to be. Well, I was like 21. So half the man would put me at like about 10 and a half.

You were writing when I'm 64, when you were 20 something. Yeah. And you, and you, you know, were considered retired at 27 when the, like, I guess I'm, I'm interested in this idea of, do you feel like you're an eight? Do you feel like there's an age that you are? Do you feel like there's an age you feel? Well, I kind of, I think like a lot of people, I mean, you, you sort of feel like you stop at about 25.

Yeah. So I'm 25. Yeah. In my head. Yeah. You know, then I look in the mirror and go, no, you're not. Yeah, me too. You're old. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, no, I like that. I mean, we, we, in the Beatles, we used to have this sort of thing whenever there was like a question about a piece of music or something to do, whether we go on tour or whatever.

And we couldn't figure out the answer. We'd say, what would we've thought when we were 17? What would that guy have said? We're not doing it. You know, cause that guy wouldn't have let us do it. Yeah. And as we grow up, we kind of go, okay, we'll do it. But it was better to listen to the 17 year old. Because that 17 year old was more definitive, like more like yes and no, like more black and white.

I think he was just more sensible and, and less, um, you know, less jaded by the world. Yeah. He kind of said, that's a terrible jacket. Yeah. You know, whereas I would kind of, you know, later or maybe now I'd sort of say, yeah, it's nice jacket or lying through my teeth. Totally. He wouldn't do that. You're right. Because I think we give, uh, a lot of like credence to the fact that when you get older, you get very wise and you have all this experience, but you're right.

We do forget the like strong, truthful opinions that we have when we're young. Yeah. I mean, I've, I still kind of can't believe Paul that the Beatles broke up when you were 27. You were only together for eight years. You made 13 albums. Those numbers are, are just really wild. It felt like when you were making music as a young person, it was like you, you knew you were only going to be making music with this band for that long is how it felt.

Yeah. I don't think we knew it, but I think we, we didn't expect to, to go on for long. Right. Because people didn't. Right. You know, in this sort of rock and roll world. Yeah. It was like, you know, five years, top whack. Yeah. But then after five years, it was like, oh no, we're doing Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. Oh yeah, we could probably keep going.

Yeah. And then, you know, we sort of do the White Album or whatever. Yeah. And then I did Wings and kept going. Yeah. And, and, and it is really interesting to talk to you because you're somebody that people feel like they know a lot about and they feel, you know, you have been in their lives in a million different ways. I know you've been in mine my whole life.

And in many ways, Paul, you kind of represent music. Like you represent songs. Like if songs were a person and we had to go to, if we had to go into space and we had to bring one person to represent songs to the aliens, we would push you to the front.

Yeah. Here he is. Well, thank you. When are we leaving? Yeah, exactly. Let's go. Okay. So I loved Morgan Neville's doc, Man on the Run. Yeah. A beautiful doc. Yeah. Did you like it? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I mean, when, when he showed up, wrote it to me first off, um, I said, there's a few embarrassing bits. Should we take them out? Fine. What was embarrassing? I didn't realize that the farm we lived on was like so run down.

It's a tip. You know, we were in love and we had a new baby and it was all great. And I was, you know, I could fix it up. Yeah. No problem. I'll make a table. You know, it was that kind of thing. Yeah. So I didn't notice. When you see it in the film, it's like you lived there. Yeah. And you had some money. Yeah. Yeah. You chose to live in that.

So that was a little bit embarrassing. I don't know. Sometimes I don't know about you. Sometimes I don't, I don't bother to think things through too seriously. Well, that is always what we learn about you. There's so many things that I appreciate about you as an artist. One is you have a sense of humor about yourself and your work, which is a sign not only of intelligence, but it just, it allows us to enjoy it in many different kinds of ways, which is so nice.

And also you really let us into your process. You know, a lot of people like to keep people out of process because it keeps them mysterious or something. And I always felt like watching you work made me feel like I could write a song. It always made me feel connected to music. And that documentary does that. It shows process. Peter Jackson's documentary, like the idea of process.

And I love what you say about your work when asked if you were a workaholic or you consider yourself one. You say, well, you don't work music. What do you say in response to that? Yeah, no, that's right. You know, people say, oh, you work a lot. You know, you're always working. I said, I'm not, you know. And I thought one day, well, we don't work music.

We play music. So I'm like a playaholic. I'm definitely addicted to that. Yeah. You know, because I'm sure it's the same for you. I feel very lucky that this is my job. Yes. You know, because when I left school, like my first job was coil winding in a factory. Okay. That sounds hot and hard. So what did you have to do? I were rugged.

What did you have to do? Literally wind coil? Yeah. Yeah. So you have a big sort of wheel with coil wire on it. It comes through your legs and you put it on like an armature thing and keep winding it. And it's like a thing they have in motors. Mm -hmm. And mine weren't very good. Yeah. You know. But the idea was they were going to take me through all the things and then I'd be manager.

But one day, John and George showed up. And one of the guys in the factory said, there's some guys out there you don't want to see. You're like, you know. So I went out and they said, we've got a gig. Mm -hmm. We've got a gig at the cabin. Yeah. So I said, let me think about it. You looked at the coil. Let me think. I looked at the coils.

I looked at the pay packet. Yeah. Seven pounds, 15 a week. Mm -hmm. God. And I can't believe I actually questioned it. But I did. I said, I'll get back to you. And yeah. And I did. And I gave up a career in coil -winding management.

You would have been the coil -winding representative that we showed to the aliens if you had stuck with it. Coil -winding king. George was how many years younger than you, Paul? I think like about one and a half. And I was one and a half years younger than John. Yeah. Did you feel, I mean, when we're older, that means nothing. But when we're young, it's really important.

Did you feel like the middle child or the younger brother to John? And did George feel like a younger brother to you? Yeah. I thought of George as younger. But he was so cocky. Yeah. He was, you know, you couldn't put George down. So he made himself older just by being very confident and like, you know. Who was the tallest? We were all the same height.

I know. You really were. And you know I've got to think about that, do you? No. Well, tell me more. Oh, my God. Well, we were all the same height and Ringo was a bit smaller. Sure. And if you look at photos, we're all the same height. But Sam Taylor Wood did a film called Nowhere Boy. Mm -hmm. And the John character, who she later married, Aaron.

Right. Right. Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. He's bigger than me in the film. My character is kind of wimpy.

Smaller than John. John knocks me to the floor. Mm -hmm. And it's like, Sam, this is not true. Yeah. And her only explanation, because she's still a good friend, you know. And she said, this is a movie. It's not a documentary. Mm -hmm. And I thought, hmm. Well, I don't like that explanation. But I couldn't do anything, because by now she'd made the film.

And there was little Paul, you know. John, the great big hero. And it's like, no. It's not true. I can't imagine what it's like to have people play you. I mean, it must be so strange. I mean, it's happening again. There's another film, Paul, the great Paul Meskel. He's playing you. Yeah. Based on your life, obviously not taken directly from your life.

But it must be strange to have people play you. Yeah, it is. It is. Yeah. And guess what? He's smaller than the guy who plays John.

Oh, it's unbelievable. I said, Sam Mendes is making the film. Yeah. I said, Sam, I've got just one thing that I need to say to you. You know, Paul's a bit small at least. So I don't know how Sam's going to deal with it. But he sent me a picture still from the filming they were doing. And they're crossing the Abbey Road crossing. Yeah, I saw that too.

And the Paul character is markedly smaller. And you can't put lifts on that bare feet. That's true. Maybe that's how it was. So I texted him, Sam, smaller. Don't do this. You said you wouldn't do it. He said, no, it's okay. It's just a stride pattern. And he sent me another one. He's going to smush them. They were equal. But I guess the way in which you guys laughed at your competitive nature, we all, as Americans especially, we love.

Because we love. That's what families do, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Is families tease. And they can kind of come at each other in ways that other people can't. And that always felt like the relationship you had with all of, and that you have with them still. Yeah. You know, the good thing was we grew up together. So there was like a family aspect.

Me and George went to the same school. Yeah. And I and John went to the art college next door. Yeah. So we all kind of, and, you know, it took years for us to kind of get any fame. Mm -hmm. So we were out in Hamburg, schlepping around, playing, you know, at not very nice little clubs. Yeah. We enjoyed it. Yeah. Because we were young kids in Hamburg.

You know, this, wow. We'd never been abroad before, you know. So that was like, but, yeah, so that, when you know each other that well, and you've been together that long, it does become like a family. Mm -hmm. So then that finds its way into your writing and your work, you know, that I can tell what he's thinking. Mm -hmm. Or I can tell him that I didn't like that line.

Yeah. Or he can tell me. That sucks. Mm -hmm. You know, and so that's very good, as you know, for writing. Well, and we're back to that 17 -year -old, like, very blunt way of saying, this is good, this is bad, you shouldn't wear that, like, all that stuff. I mean, and I'm sure you know that as you get any level of success, sometimes people are afraid to give you real feedback.

Yeah, that's a danger now. You know, people all say to me when I'm working with a producer, they say, does he tell you if it's no good? Yeah. And I'm not sure. Right. How could you know? Maybe. Maybe he doesn't. Mm -hmm. I know. I think you find people who will tell you. Yeah. And stuff. But it must be hard for them. Yeah. You know. I think so.

Because you've got such a reputation. Uh -huh. Right. You know, to tell you a joke isn't funny would scare me. It should. Good. It should. Good. That wasn't funny. It should. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. But you know what? I'm so, I'm always so impressed by so many things that you do, Paul. But one of them is the idea of continuing, like, on to the next.

Like, what is the next adventure? Like, you know, you're always looking creatively, especially, for ways to just continue to be inspired and to continue to work together. You have a new record, Boys of Dungeon Lane. Want to hear about it? Yeah, I do. I'm fascinated by your process of how you make music, how you write songs. I think the good thing is I'm fascinated, too.

I don't know. I do a class in my old school that me and George went to in Liverpool. It's called Lipper. And I go there every year and do a class with the songwriting students. And the first thing I say to them, they come in one -on -one. So it's terrifying for them. Yeah. Oh, they come in one -on -one. They come in one -on -one with a guitar or a little piece of– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, boy, yeah. And I say, come and sit down. I'm going to say this. I don't know how to do this. You know, I know I'm teaching you. I have no idea how you do it because your song is going to be different from mine and stuff. And then we work it through and they'll play me one of their songs. And then I will sort of say, that's very good.

Or how about that second verse, maybe good as an opening verse because I think it's a bit stronger. So So I just take them through sort of gentle hints Well mainly by the time they get to me they're pretty good You know they've done three years And I don't know how to do it That's the point And I don't want to know You know I always just sit down with a guitar or at the piano And just start plunking something

And if I find something that sounds good I just follow that Yeah That's not bad That's not bad Where could it go next Well it could stay there You know all that stuff Yeah And then you learn in yourself The natural thing to do is you move through the chords Yeah You know

Or you can tell yourself no don't move Stay there You know And there's all sorts of tricks That you can use And there's so many little tricks like that It just makes it fun for me And then if you get a good opening line That's a great thing Because you kind of then know where you're going You know And on Dungeon Lane There's a song Called Days We Left Behind Which is special for me And I knew I had I had something When I It was looking back I'm thinking about looking back at photographs of the past So you could say looking back at black and white photos But I knew it was good when I said it He said modestly I said Looking back at white and black So I just The fact that

I'd switched It was not a black and white photo anymore It's a white and black So I And obviously it rhymes So looking back at white and black Reminders of the past or whatever I just thought Oh okay Yeah So you're looking at photos And And you go there Just let's see what You remember Yeah Yeah And And it's nice I I have a lot of good memories When you hear a song that you've written You've written so many Do you remember the making of that song when you hear it? Do you remember the writing of it? Do you know Like Yeah A lot of the time I do Yeah The process of making it when you hear it? A lot of the time

Sometimes Oh it is crazy Because They have a Beatles channel On Sirius Yes And My If I'm You know Hiring a car My driver will like He knows to have it on

Oh Oh That's a good channel But Normally it's quite quiet So you can talk And then I'll hear something Yeah And say Oh wait a minute Turn this one up And Talking about remembering Writing the song He turned one up Because I couldn't remember What the title was I thought What's this one? And then he played I couldn't even remember the song Yeah It had just come and gone so fast Yeah So yeah I don't always remember them But a lot of them I Do I have Pretty Strong memories Of Yeah Like Mullet Kintyre A wing song That was Yeah It was very successful Band Bagpipe I loved Seeing that in the doc Making that Like Watching you make that song And Also in the doc Learning about How

Wings came together And your Intention behind Bringing people together Which was really Interesting And For me It was the first time I heard you speak about How important it was For you to feel Like part of a group Like you like being around people And you like being part of a group An ensemble Yeah What do you like about it? Just the companionship Just the friendship Yeah And the Other opinion Yeah You know Having another opinion in the room Yeah Kind of another I like that

I'm mainly just Playing together Yeah You know It's like kids In kindergarten Yeah The play The word play is back again Like do you Have a pre -show ritual? Do you do anything Always like Do you Not eat two hours Before the show? Do you Yeah I don't Have a superstition? Not really I do have A ritual What is it? Would you tell us what it is? What is it? Okay Okay Here we go Well I don't eat You know I have like lunch Let's even back up further What time were you going to bed? The night before The night before? I don't know Random Oh gosh It doesn't matter You musicians With your bedtime I know Just a crazy bunch Just a crazy bunch No I don't I don't think about that That's

normally I mean it's normally Not too late Okay It's not too crazy Probably if it was Six in the morning We'd gone right through I probably would worry a bit Yeah But no It's just kind of normal bedtime Okay And yeah I get up I just have My breakfast What's your breakfast? Breakfast How do you take your tea? It is It's really kind of boring Because it's always the same It's like cereal Beer cereal Not too much Just a little bit

Berries Yeah That's the super food Berries You gotta bury it up Five raspberries Whoa Gotta be five Looks good Dun dun dun dun Dun dun dun In the middle

Handful of blueberries Oh yeah The blueberries are just Really nilly Tuck them in Tuck them in And the strawberry Which I cut up Uh huh Meditative

Are we really doing this? We are We're gonna do another hour of this This is great Recipe Breakfast Coffee or tea? No In the morning It's just water Water No caffeine? No I'm not a big coffee person Really? Yeah No I'm English But You get tea all day long A lot of people You know My kids Drink coffee Yeah Quite a lot I will have like One coffee In the middle of the day Some Sometime Often Um So that's my breakfast Add a few pecans And a few raisins If you want to party Yeah

And then there's a very specific lunch Okay Let's hear it Gig lunch Oh a gig Oh yeah A gig lunch No it's gig day lunch Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah For me Yeah Um Because I mean Being on stage I mean I've talked to a lot of performers Who Just being in front of an audience Is so physical And you have been on stage For most of your adult life In all different stages With different types of people And in different shows What is What's the thing now That you're loving about Being on stage Like what What does it look like To be on stage now I mean For example We've got like Bruce still doing Three hour shows We have Taylor Swift Doing three hour shows Like a lot of Expectation for

people To do long shows I know I blame him I've told him I know I said It's your bloody fault I know We used to do like an hour Yeah I know Stones still do Something like an hour or so Yeah Old school Yeah But no Bruce just suddenly doing These three Four hour things So that's what we do You do I know You know what I love though The audience Yeah That's what it's all about Yeah That And my audiences Touchwood Are very loving They're so It's so warm Yeah You know They're just so cool And all ages Yeah That's the amazing thing I always I expected them To be My age Or slightly younger Or whatever But it's not like that There's a lot of young kids Yeah And Well you're every

favorite artist's favorite artist Wow You are And Is there any music right now That you listen to And you think I wish I wrote that

No Very good No Not really There are some People that I think Are really good

You know Like Billie Eilish I think Is cool But I don't think I want to have written Her songs Right And also A lot of songs These days Are breakup songs Yeah And I'm married Right You're in love With a beautiful woman And you're in love With a beautiful woman And you have A fantastic breakfast

Yeah Yeah Yeah That's true No So No I don't think There used to be songs Like I used to Want to have written One of Billy Joel's songs The Way You Are Yeah I always thought That was like The kind of thing I could have written Yeah I think that's a nice song Nowadays It's I'll tell you what Some of them Are like

Very Banal Yeah I want your Ooh Ooh I want it Ooh Ooh Ha Ha This could be a hit And then you go But then you gotta do The moves You gotta do The TikTok dance Yeah Yeah Yeah

This from the This from the man That gave us She loves you Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah So I mean Doth protest

I bet you've been Able to collaborate With mostly everybody That you've wanted To collaborate At some point Is there anybody That you still wish To collaborate with No I get asked This question And I always Think Bob Dylan Yeah But I'm too Nervous Yeah To ring him up Yeah Bob It is Paul Yeah I can't even picture him Being on the telephone Bob No I can't actually Picture him He's in some bush Yeah he's in a bush Exactly He's He's writing in a journal In a sleeping bag Maybe Yes Yeah Who was the first Famous person That you met Um First famous person When you were young Starting out Who was You know Remember Did you meet someone Who you wanted Their autograph Or you were

Blown away That you knew That they were A famous person The queen Wow And that's an autograph You're not gonna get No She's great I love the queen I love the queen too I I really Well you know Let's talk about the queen She She was crowned She's She's a doll She was crowned Um When I was 11 Mm So And she was a babe Yeah You know When I was 11 She was like 23 Or something Yeah So we all Used to think Wow This is amazing You know Like Yeah You know Having a king She's got this Girl Yeah This babe So we kind of Liked her In other ways Than we shouldn't Have liked her Right You know what I mean Right Right So yeah So So meeting her Was special How old were you When you met

her Um Probably about 21 or something Yeah Wow Nancy My wife Now She says She fancied you Yeah Now there's no knowing If there's any truth to that But let's just say it's true Yeah Let's say it's true I like to think it's true And I think she would Not to speak for the queen But I will I would think she would Enjoy Nancy saying that I think she would Yeah She would get a laugh Out of that Yeah Like she would enjoy that Well she was a laugh Yeah That's one of the things I liked about her She was A good sense of humor And uh Yeah I was I was very happy That um You know sometimes You don't get the queen If you're getting an honor Yeah Like you're getting a knighthood Right

You don't always get the queen I was very lucky I got the queen All the time And um Well she made sure She was there Wow Well that's what Nancy Would say She looked at her She looked at Nancy's nose She looked at her Planner And she was like Mmhmm Two o 'clock I'm gonna make myself available I'll do him I'm gonna put the sword I'll do the sword thing That's what she said The sword was Edward the Confessor The name of the sword? Yeah I mean British history Wow There was a king Called Edward the Confessor Wow At least it wasn't Ethelred the Unready But talk about Again Like time travel Which you don't believe in But I believe in for you But you're 21 You meet the queen Just

speed You know However many years later And you're getting knighted by her Mmhmm It's such a wild life Yeah I know I know No really Wow And believe me I agree with that Yeah I mean life itself anyway Yeah For most people Is wild Yes Life is wild No matter what My particular Kind of life Yeah Has been very wild Up to this point And continues to be wild Look at me here Yeah I'm doing your show It's like the queen It's like being with the queen Not It's not quite queen level No not quite yet Not quite It's very impressive

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Also, and then I'll move off of this theme That I'm very clumsily trying to connect But what I also love about your work Chrissy Hynde says this in the documentary about you Can we just talk about Chrissy Hynde for a second? We love Chrissy She's a dude Tell me how you met Chrissy You and Linda were really good friends with Chrissy Yeah Tell us how you met Chrissy Hynde What a genius You know, a recording studio in London Air London, it was called And there were a lot of studios So you meet the people who were in the other studios You know Yeah And she was just walking down the corridor And she was very moody with her hair down And sort of wouldn't look at you, you know

Yeah But Linda was Didn't, you know, do that She would approach you Yeah Hi, how are you doing? You know And they got talking And so we met her And Chrissy stopped being so moody And just talked to us Yeah And we had a lot of stuff in common She's like a crazy vegetarian Yes So we had that in common And Linda was very outspoken On that subject To the point where

If it hadn't been her It would have been Embarrassing You know, if you're at a dinner party And someone's eating meat She would like give them trouble Yeah Over it Yeah You know what you're eating? Mm -hmm Yeah, well, I know You know Which mommy loved it Yeah Ahead of her time Right in Very ahead You were both ahead of Yeah She had this kind of Disney -esque view of animals Mm -hmm So that

If we saw her like a frog In a garden or something She'd pick it up Mm -hmm And, you know Not every girl would Yeah You know, she'd pick it up And the way I'm getting emotional But the way she would hold it Mm -hmm Um It wouldn't hurt it Ha ha ha Ha ha Um And yeah Yeah, beautiful And she would say You know, it's mommy loved it And even it's a frog Yeah It was like a Disney frog Yeah To her I loved learning more about you And Linda In that documentary I loved watching you two Yeah Work together And be together It's It was really a testament To just what

Respectful, beautiful Mutual love looks like Yeah She was She was something else Yeah Tough, tough lady Yeah Look, I have good hanged tissues Thank you, ma 'am Yeah Um I want to talk about Your family life Um And just how Family is important to you Because I have the Pleasure and privilege Of getting to know Some of your family Um But as we move off The Beatles Although we never will But as we move off The Beatles For this Conversation What is your relationship Now like with George And John And Ringo Some are here Some are not But relationships As we know with Linda Like people that With your mom People that you lose They're always with you They just Your relationship

Changes with them What is your relationship Now like with Those men Um I'm a fan You know And the more we go on I'm a bigger fan I'm like a Beatles fan You know Um Just cause Like I say You know I'll just hear something That we did Uh And I'll remember Writing it with John And think Wow I was really lucky You know This is amazing I'm sitting down Writing with someone And he happens to be John Lennon Yeah Um And I think the same For him With me He's sitting down And the guy who's Talking about his Work Is me Um So yeah So I'm a fan Um And uh You know I think I've Become more Of a fan The more I think About them And uh Yeah You know George for instance How I met George was

on The school bus I used to get On one stop These big Double decker Green Buses Um We It was about A half hour Journey into From where we lived To the school So I would get on At one stop And then The next stop George would get on And we wore the same School uniform So we We kind of Could relate Some way And sometimes We sit next to each other And uh We talk about guitars And rock and roll It's in one of the songs On the Dungeon Lane album Actually Oh really Yeah There's one song Called Down South And it's uh It's about how we met On You know The school bus And we talked about Rock and roll And guitars And all that Sort of stuff Um So that was great You know We became

friends Over that And then When uh We were looking For another guitar Player John was kind of Interested in getting Another guy in I put George up And I sort of said I got this Little mate You know He's little He wasn't physically Little But he's young You know And that could be A problem But uh It wasn't a problem And he played Great guitar John was so impressed And so George Joins the group So that was that period But then look at George's life Uh huh And how he grew Yeah And My gosh You know I became spiritual Um It was It was pretty amazing Do you have a spiritual practice Paul? Do you feel like You're a spiritual person? Um I don't have like A practice Yeah So much I

meditate Um And no I sort of believe In a In a power I don't know What he or she Is Well I know There's something There And I feel Um And I often Do that thing You know The secret Oh yeah Hey I got really into that For a minute Yeah Well I'm still Still into it I mean you probably Were on my vision board And here I am Talking to you I just know The simple version Yeah Yeah But Paul We feel that In your art Like the The idea that You're tuning Into a channel Like an open channel And it's not Optimism Which Kind of flattens it out It's just the idea Of like There's possibilities You gotta keep yourself Open to possibilities Yeah I feel that way When you talk About your work

And I do feel that way When you talk about Your family Like You Family was so Important to you Building one Whether it be With the people You're playing with With the people In your life Like I I I love that You led us Into How The You know You believe in love Like you're You I do You do believe in love And you And you Can tell By how you live Your life And congratulations To you and Linda For raising great kids Really Talented Kind Funny kids Yeah Really great Children Thank you Thank you Yeah No They are great You know It's important to me And the thing is You know I'm not really That different From a lot of Dads There's a lot of people Out there I mean Okay There's the

People But you also Choose very strong Women Yeah That's true You like Strong independent Women Yeah That's not always The case with men That are as successful And talented And powerful As yourself That's not always The case Sometimes they They don't like To be challenged In that way It's funny I don't think Of it like that But it is true Yeah I like someone Who's got A strong opinion Well we spoke To somebody Who has a strong Opinion Because we always Do this thing On our podcast Where we speak To somebody Who knows our guest And who wants To give me a question To ask My guest And we could have Spoken to so many people But I really wanted To speak to Stella Oh yeah Tell

us about Stella Stella's a pistol She is Linda had Mary Yeah And that was Straightforward And so then Linda was pregnant Again With Stella And

Went to the Hospital For her To be born And then Suddenly There was like A thing Going on

Where The doctors It's a thing Called placenta Previa Oh yes Of course You know about that It can be very dangerous And the doctor Said so we're Going to have to do A C -section You know A cesarean So he's like Oh okay So he did it And it was successful And it worked But it meant that Stella had to be In an incubator Yeah When she was little And so I would go down A couple of floors To where the incubator Unit was And I would See Our baby And Then go back up And report To Linda You know And It was amazing Because So Stella did a little Movement

And it was exactly Like Linda But she didn't know Linda yet Yeah Wild She hadn't She hadn't Learned Any tricks So it was really Just you know Yeah A natural thing So I got running Back up I said Stella Just did that thing And I know that thing From you Yeah So Wow So Stella We talk about it Quite a bit Well Stella's question For me to ask you Which is amazing That you're telling This story Paul Because She said Ask my dad What his What his first memory Was We spoke about it The other day And I And he remembered His first memory Because Stella shared That she thinks One of her first memories Was being in an incubator Yeah She can feel like And I know a lot of people Have

memories Of when they were born Or feel like they do And how you come Into the world Can really In some ways Define Your life's path You can become Like a fighter Or a survivor Or you want to be More sleepy And peaceful Whatever is the way That you come into the world But she shared That as her first memory And the question She wanted me to ask you Was what was yours? Yeah You know These things You don't know If you've made it up Yeah Sure Or if it's But I have this feeling That I can remember Being born I was born in a place In Liverpool Called Walton Hospital Which was a real Old Victorian thing I think it had been Something else Before a hospital So I kind of Remember

White tiles Very sort of Hygienic White tiles And Chrome Instruments And clanging Because I was A forceps Birth They had to pull me out Me too I was a forceps Were you? Yeah I had dents in my head Give it up For forceps people Yeah They had to yank me out I wouldn't come out Yeah It was too good in there Yeah No this is okay I'm getting fed Totally And then all of a sudden Something came in there And clamped your head Yeah And yanked you out

And out I came I loved that you were too Yeah I was Yeah so I sort of think I remember that How funny I don't know if it's true The other question That she had was What is Monkberry Moon Delight And have you smoked it? And what were you on When you wrote that song? I probably was on Something that I smoked But no When the kids were little You know how kids Don't always Can't pronounce Certain words Yeah Well The word for milk Was monk Hmm You know Can I have Can I have Daddy can I have some monk? So that was milk So I was thinking Of a milkshake So it was like Milk Berry Monkberry Moon So it's the name Of a milkshake In my head You know I just imagined That And then I

just Flew off on one Because the lyrics Are Crazy great Yeah They're great Lyrics There was I With a piano Up my nose Soup Puree Soup and puree Yeah Soup and puree Cats and kittens Don't get left behind Yes Ketchup Ketchup Ketchup I know It's just like A lot of wordplay And stuff But I look back On that Kind of song And think I Wish I wrote Those now You know I think it was just Zany period Yeah Yeah But that's That's what it was In my mind It's actually A milkshake So the last section I want to talk to you about Is your Connection to SNL Because Of the many things That You entered In my life I mean You were also Connected to the show One of the shows That shaped my life

When I was learning What I wanted to do With my life You know Saturday Night Live Was such a huge Part of my world And the fact That you And Lorne And Just the Beatles Like they always Felt like they were It felt like you guys Were hanging around All the time And you do Go to the show Quite a bit And you've been On the show Quite a bit Yeah And I mean There's just so many Incredible moments On that show I mean When I was preparing For this interview I was thinking about The Chris Farley Moment Which no one's seen It's an incredible sketch Where Chris Farley Is interviewing you And he does What I'm sure Most people do Is he just Tells you What you've done And Do you He's

so good So good I think the first time I was introduced To him Was John Who was living In New York Right And who You know Loved SNL And it was around That time When Lorne Had come on And offered us Three thousand dollars To perform Because You know Everyone was offering A million To get back together And he holds up a check And he's got a little Check from him Yep Which apparently Was what they Would have paid us NBC And I love You've spoken on this That you all Considered it for a second I mean You were in New York You were performing Wings was performing Just me and John Yeah We're at his A place In New York And he said Have you seen this show I said no He said well

This guy Comes on He's offering us Yeah And John said We should go down now Because it was It was on live And he said Go and surprise him So for a second We were going to do that But then it was like No It's much too comfortable here Let's just watch We watched it Yeah It's 1130 We watched it Yeah But I think that was the first time I'd seen the show Mm -hmm And then sort of realized Why everyone was massive fans of it Yeah And why it was such an American institution I mean I love being included in sketches You know, I like doing the music Be careful saying that because they're going to keep writing you in I don't mind You like it You like it Yeah, I was like a garage

guy, a mechanic Yeah The last one I did with Marcelo Yeah And Will Ferrell What was it like working with Marcelo? Just kidding And then Yoga Boys Also the one I did with Marty Shaw Oh, Marty With Marty Shaw He's so great He's so great We were actually a year ago We were actually having dinner It was me, Lorne, Jimmy Fallon And Martin was going to come to dinner with us But he was late So we're all sitting in the thing And the restaurant's crowded You know, and then Martin comes in from left And he's walking through And he's pretending he doesn't know where we are He's seen us And he's going Oh Oh, excuse me Oh, sorry And he's bumping into tables And he's doing that whole

bit of his, you know Oh, there you are So funny Hysterical Hysterical Okay, quick rapid fire We're going to get you out of here Okay, so rapid fire time Best decade for music Sixties If you were an animal What animal would you be? Horse Why? Because I love horses Do you think you've lived before? Possibly And who were you? Me King Gessel The Unready I'm ready

Do you have a favourite song you've ever written? Yeah, Here, There and Everywhere I like that song

Okay Nancy's favourite song of yours? Days We Left Behind Of the new album Fantastic Last concert you went to? I think it was Brandi Carlile She was in here How talented is she? Yeah

She's a very nice girl too There just must be a feeling when you meet songwriters Right? There just must be a feeling of like Oh, we know each other We know how to do this Yeah Even though we don't know how to do it But we've done it Yeah, we've done it I mean, I felt that way even when I watched Get Back And when I was watching you write that song, for example And the process of writing it And being together And you were doing, to me, what looked like what we would do in a comedy writer's room Which is you work a little bit and then you fuck around a lot Because you can only kind of like think of something original for a few minutes And then you have to like play other

people's songs and like goof around I mean, you were doing bits basically with each other Yeah, yeah That was a way to get offline to get back into like your creative space And it was like a process that felt like, oh, this is what process looks like Yeah, that's all We've been mates for years Yeah So, you know, you goof around John would pick up something, you know I remember she came in through the bathroom window, one of my songs And I'm Tuesdays on, Mondays on the phone to Tuesday or whatever it is So Tuesdays on the phone to me, I think was the line So I start going, hello Tuesday, alright darling And then John picks it up, he's on the piano And he starts doing

Tuesday and we were talking to Tuesday So yeah, we could do that Yeah Because we'd hung out a lot I mean, we went hitchhiking together and things, you know So we would sleep together Yeah And that makes you kind of, you know, quite intimate with each other Yeah Well, just getting to see the way you work together feels like they're Anybody who's in some kind of creative space working with somebody else They felt like they understood what that feeling is Like this idea that you kind of talked about it earlier That there's just some kind of magic you're supposed to make space for and room for And if you're lucky, it comes in And if you're even luckier, you get to make it And

then if you're the luckiest, people love it That's true I think if you love it, people probably will Well, I feel like I'll end by saying, Paul, that The thing that I feel like you taught me as an artist Knowing you for my entire life Not knowing you, but knowing your work Is that love is really That's the thing Like it's like loss is inevitable Change is inevitable Life is wild But if you can keep kind of heading towards the love part You're headed in the right direction Yeah Thank you for that That's all you need

No, I agree It's, you know And, you know, I would own up to being a romantic I love it Yeah I love films where it's romantic Yeah I'm not a big fan of, like, shoot -em -ups Do you like horror movies? No Me neither And let's take a minute Yeah Zombies Forget zombies

I mean, people love that It's like I've never watched Not very keen No Zombies I've said this before But if there was a zombie apocalypse I would immediately just take a pill And go to sleep forever There's no way I would ever Like, fight a zombie No Well, I'd fight it for you Thank you, Paul Arr You've got the sword, darling Okay, so What is making you laugh right now As we end? Anything? What do you watch to giggle?

Yeah, films and things Like what? What do you think is funny? Well, let's watch a video together as we end My favorite year Oh, Peter O'Toole? Yeah I thought that was funny Love that movie I haven't seen it in so long No, that's what I mean I asked someone what their favorite film was And they come up with that one Oh, I love that film Yeah, it's a great film For people who don't remember that That was an 80s comedy Oh, yeah Peter O'Toole plays like an actor Who's on a variety show, right? Yeah, he was like He's a has -been Yes And he gets drunk all the time That's right And the young guys put in charge of him There was a big stretch in the 80s Where all the characters

were really drunk Yeah Like Arthur My favorite There's quite a bunch Where like the lead was like falling down drunk Yeah

And we were like, that's hilarious Okay, let's watch just the trailer of My Favorite Year Before we end It was the year Hollywood's greatest hero Swashbuckled his way onto live TV And into Benji's life I mean, this looks like, um Monty Python

Peter O'Toole passing out He's good God, Peter O'Toole is good Yeah Well, Paul McCartney I could talk to you all day I really, really, really appreciate you being here It's a total thrill to talk to you How did we do? We did okay We did, I think we did great I mean, all right I enjoyed it All right, good Yeah Thanks, Paul Thanks for doing this Thanks, Amy Okay, you're excused Yes,

miss Thank you Thank you, Paul McCartney Um I I don't know what to say It was It was a complete thrill To talk to you And what an incredible conversation And You know For this polar plunge I just I feel the need to call my mother And tell her that I just interviewed Paul McCartney So if you will indulge me Um Listeners I have not told my mom Or my dad That I'm interviewing Uh Paul Um Uh Because I can't be trusted With that information But um I'm gonna FaceTime Um My mom right now And see If we can get a real -time A real -time response Now She Hello Hello Yes Hi Um Can you hear me? Yeah Yeah, you're on the Uh In the podcast I'm doing the podcast right now So your voices

are gonna be recorded Is that okay? Do I have your legal consent? Depends on how I feel it went Okay, let me talk to mom

Okay Um Guess who I just interviewed Mom Who would be your favorite person? Oh my gosh Who is the most excited person you've ever met when you came to SNL? Oh Paul McCartney I just interviewed Paul McCartney No, sir I did I just interviewed Paul McCartney Yeah Oh my god Your mother brags about the Did you mention my name?

She brags about the time he knocked on your door at SNL and said Oh, I like your daughter Yeah, he said it You're Amy's mother That's right That's right And Eileen said Oh, Sir Paul Hello, Sir Paul Okay, mom You know, as I wrap up this episode What is the memory you have of Like how important were the Beatles to you? Oh, it was unbelievable My big memory is the first time they played on Ed Sullivan Ed Sullivan show with your long hair And my father said Look at those guys with that long hair That's right Yeah I liked them immediately Yeah I went to see them, I think Didn't you go to Enlin somewhere? No, that was the Rolling Stones No,

I never saw them You never saw them You just saw the Rolling Stones I just, yeah No, but he made a joke to Eileen about Didn't I see you on the fourth row? Oh, yeah He said you were at the Okay, I gotta go I got Okay, I gotta go Okay I love you guys I wanted to tell you that I just interviewed Paul McCartney Cool I'm so psyched Nice All right Love you guys Okay, hi I'll keep track of his numbers and see if he beats out Paul Rudd

He's coming for you, Rudd All right All right Okay Okay, love you guys Okay, hi Bye Thanks, everybody Thanks for listening to Good Hang And we'll see you soon Bye

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