The Talk Show With John Gruber

150: ‘Strict Robot Definer’, With Special Guest Jason Snell

Jason Snell returns to the show for an in-depth look at last week's Apple Event, and the two products that were introduced: the iPhone SE and the 9.7-inch iPad Pro. Other topics include the ongoing FBI/Apple encryption soap opera, what's wrong with the Apple Watch -- and our appreciation for the late great Garry Shandling.