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In today’s episode of The Startup Chat, Steli and Hiten talk about the benefits of therapy for a founder.

Running a startup comes with a lot of strain and stress, and if not managed properly, can affect your mental health. As a founder, if you feel you need help to get you over these trying times, it may be a good idea to talk to a therapist.

In this episode, Steli and Hiten talk about the history of the startup chat, why the name was chosen, why the show is all about startup mentality and much more.

Time Stamped Show Notes:

00:00 About the topic of today’s episode

00:41 Why this topic was chosen.

01:25 Steli’s experience with therapy.

02:24 How we sometimes give the answers we want to give.

03:18 Why every therapy session is different.

05:05 More on Steli’s experience with therapy.

06:00 What makes a therapy valuable.

07:14 Steli’s thoughts on mental health.

08:39 How to find the right therapist.

09:00 Why it’s important to understand the you’re paying them to help you.

3 Key Points:

In some ways, a lot of our conversations borderline therapyWith therapy, some of us might give the answer that we want to give, not the answer that is true to us.One of the things I’ve learned about myself is that I can make some go around in circles in therapy.You’re paying them to help you.


Steli Efti: Hey, everybody. This is Steli Efti.


Hiten Shah: And this is Hiten Shah. Today, on The Startup Chat we're going to talk about a topic that's a little bit en vogue, especially in Silicon Valley startup land. But, maybe even further out than that, I would say. This idea of therapy for founders, particularly. I think it's going to be an interesting topic, just considering how much attention it's getting right now. It's really about mental health. Right?


Steli Efti: Yeah.


Hiten Shah: Yeah, let's talk about it. What's your experience with therapy?


Steli Efti: I've not been in therapy as an adult. I mean, in some ways, a lot of our conversations borderline therapy.


Hiten Shah: Like what?


Steli Efti: Especially the ones we don't record, for many reasons.


Hiten Shah: Very true.


Steli Efti: But, so in a sense, I do feel like I have had many, many therapeutic discussions with very special people. But, I've not been to a therapist as an adult. I have thought about it though, on and off, as like maybe this would really benefit me, but I didn't ... Nothing propelled me to push that though forward. Although, I don't think that that's something that maybe I'll decide I'll do that sometime soon. I don't know. As a child, I went through therapy for a little while. Maybe that jaded me a bit, because after my ... I think after my father died, maybe I was acting up a little bit in school. I think my mom brought me to some kind of a test doctor or something. They gave me a ... They did a bunch of tests with me, and then they gave me this multiple choice questionnaire that was basically like trying to figure out if there's something wrong with me. I don't know why, but I remember very consciously answering those questions in a way that I was like, "They probably want to ..." "Do you want to be part of a group or be alone, because you're afraid that people won't like you?" "They probably want me to say that." I found like fucked up ... I feel like I knew what I had to ask for them to say that it's some psychology issue. I don't know why I wanted that. But, I know that I followed that. Like I didn't really honestly answer that thing.


Hiten Shah: I think, Steli, you just brought up a huge point. With therapy, some of us will give the answer that we want to give, not the answer that is true to us.


Steli Efti: Yeah,

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