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What Is the Best Use of New Cash at Modal?

Erik Bernhardsson says the best use of new cash at Modal today is capacity prepayments. Modal is ramping up capacity very aggressively. Salaries and office space are a rounding error in the financials.

A lot of the cash flow in the current capacity situation is capacity prepayments. Other deployment models in the future, including ownership, would still need a down payment or prepayment. The operating leverage in the business is insane. Modal has 200 employees who cost a lot of money, but the GPUs cost a lot more money, and he does not expect the balance to change.

The biggest focus is capacity and the financial complexity around it: pricing and packaging, the tension between ownership and renting, and whether Modal should move in a more neocloud direction or the opposite direction.

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Why AI Compute Comes in Rectangles — Erik Bernhardsson, Modal CEO ·

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  5. How Do Neoclouds Expand So Quickly?Erik Bernhardsson says neoclouds expand quickly by pre-selling chips they have not bought yet.
  6. What Share of Revenue Do Modal Sandboxes Make?Erik Bernhardsson says Modal Sandboxes now make up about a third of revenue, and the team considers them the company's second product.
  7. Is Smaller AI Training Underserved?Erik Bernhardsson says smaller AI training is an underserved market. Huge training runs go to Neo cloud mega deals for 100,000 GPUs.
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  10. How Does Modal Treat Code Reviews?Erik Bernhardsson treats code review at Modal as optional.
  11. How Many People Work at Modal?Erik Bernhardsson says Modal recently crossed 200 people and will probably hit 250 by the end of the year.
  12. Why Does AI Compute Come in Rectangles?Erik Bernhardsson says AI compute comes in rectangles because a typical GPU contract sells a fixed block of chips for about three years, starting three to six…

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