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Why Won't Erik Bernhardsson Buy All the Compute He Can?

Erik Bernhardsson will not buy up as much compute capacity as possible just because demand for intelligence looks basically infinite. He is extremely aggressive, buying capacity every day and raising money to buy more, and he is very bullish. He still will not try to corner the market.

Bought today, the capacity could not all be put to use, though a lot of it could. Selling the spare amount to somebody else looks simple until price, utilization, and the resale market drop together. He treats that lineup as a tail risk, and when it hits, things could get very bad. His first job was in 1999, and he saw the dot-com crisis and the great financial crisis. He wants a company that lasts 20, 30, or 50 more years. The Hunt Brothers tried to corner the silver market and failed spectacularly, so cornering a market can be a bad idea.

The build follows an aggressive plan that matches demand growth and the run rate he wants at the end of next year.

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Why AI Compute Comes in Rectangles — Erik Bernhardsson, Modal CEO ·

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast

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  1. What Is Modal's Killer App?Erik Bernhardsson says Stable Diffusion turned out to be the killer app for Modal, the platform he built to make it easy to run code in the cloud.
  2. Why Did Modal Rebuild Its Tools for Generative AI?Erik Bernhardsson says Modal rebuilt its tools for generative AI because Kubernetes and Docker were made for a steady back-end workload.
  3. Why Are AI Hardware Prices Going Up?Erik Bernhardsson says AI hardware prices are going up because capacity is tight while big buyers take as much supply as they can, even though hardware prices…
  4. How Do Neoclouds Expand So Quickly?Erik Bernhardsson says neoclouds expand quickly by pre-selling chips they have not bought yet.
  5. What Share of Revenue Do Modal Sandboxes Make?Erik Bernhardsson says Modal Sandboxes now make up about a third of revenue, and the team considers them the company's second product.
  6. Is Smaller AI Training Underserved?Erik Bernhardsson says smaller AI training is an underserved market. Huge training runs go to Neo cloud mega deals for 100,000 GPUs.
  7. Why Does Modal Snapshot Sandboxes?Erik Bernhardsson sees snapshotting as the way a long-running agent spins a sandbox up in 100 milliseconds, runs a few commands, shuts it down, and snapshots…
  8. Was Modal Hacked in the Hugging Face Incident?Erik Bernhardsson says Modal itself was not hacked in the Hugging Face incident.
  9. How Does Modal Treat Code Reviews?Erik Bernhardsson treats code review at Modal as optional.
  10. What Is the Best Use of New Cash at Modal?Erik Bernhardsson says the best use of new cash at Modal today is capacity prepayments. Modal is ramping up capacity very aggressively.
  11. How Many People Work at Modal?Erik Bernhardsson says Modal recently crossed 200 people and will probably hit 250 by the end of the year.
  12. Why Does AI Compute Come in Rectangles?Erik Bernhardsson says AI compute comes in rectangles because a typical GPU contract sells a fixed block of chips for about three years, starting three to six…

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