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Why Does Sending Chinese PhD Students Away Hurt the US?

Eric Schmidt gives the United States the edge on leadership and talent, then says the country is giving that edge away. Taking the smartest people, arresting them, kicking them out, and denying them visas is a bad strategy. The pattern he calls out is graduate students, typically from China and from other countries: the United States gives them a PhD and then makes them leave.

One person who wanted to stay in America now leads China's quantum program. Schmidt says the quantum adversary is China and that person. The country trained him, then kicked him out, and he went on to lead the rival program. Schmidt still scores leadership and talent for the United States. The loss, as he tells it, is self-inflicted.

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Eric Schmidt scores US vs. China: who’s winning the AI race? ·

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  1. How Far Behind Is China in the AI Race?Eric Schmidt says China is now six months behind in the race to build reasoning and intelligence systems.
  2. How Much Power Does American AI Need?Eric Schmidt says American AI needs somewhere between 60 and 80 gigawatts of power to get through 2030 and 2031.
  3. Why Did China Choose Open-source AI Models?Eric Schmidt says China chose open-source and open-weight models because it was behind and needed users quickly. America's large models are mostly closed.
  4. What Did AI Do to Math in One Month?Eric Schmidt says mathematicians face Armageddon: everything in their world was overthrown in one month.
  5. Is the US-China AI Race a Zero-sum Game?Eric Schmidt tells Bob Safian the AI race is not a zero-sum game, and that China is not an enemy. Competitors can still create a whole new market.

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