Smash Notes

Back to Franklin Templeton CEO on SpaceX, Anthropic, Circular Deals & the State of the Market, with Jenny Johnson.

Why Is Franklin Templeton Investing in SpaceX and Anthropic?

Jenny Johnson says Franklin Templeton invests in SpaceX and Anthropic through late-stage venture, because companies wait much longer to go public and the IPO kickers that used to lift performance are gone.

She confirms the SpaceX exposure. When Molly O'Shea names Anthropic and a bunch of other companies, she agrees. Late-stage venture is what IPO underwriting used to be. A mutual fund or an ETF can hold up to 15% in illiquid assets. Franklin Templeton does not tend to run that allocation at 15%, because a market move could breach the limit, and a 6%, 7%, or 8% stake can fit. Clients who saw the deals asked for a fund, so the firm now has a venture group that often invests both through the venture fund and with traditional portfolio managers.

The access comes from being headquartered in Silicon Valley. The team knows the entrepreneurs and the rest of the venture community. Their kids go to school with those people, who are neighbors, and knowing them is how Franklin Templeton gets into the deals.

Transcript

Franklin Templeton CEO on SpaceX, Anthropic, Circular Deals & the State of the Market ·

Sourcery

More from this episode

  1. Why Will Interest Rates Stay Higher?Jenny Johnson thinks inflation is probably pretty sticky and rates are probably going to stay higher, after setting aside noise around AI, hyperscalers…
  2. Is AI in a Bubble?Jenny Johnson says AI feels frothy in some areas, and she would not finance data centers long term because that bet assumes today's chip manufacturing and…
  3. Why Did Franklin Templeton Start Late-stage Venture?Jenny Johnson says Franklin Templeton started late-stage venture because companies wait much longer to go public, so portfolio managers lost the IPO kickers…
  4. How Early Did Franklin Templeton Close Legg Mason?Jenny Johnson closed Franklin's deal for Legg Mason 60 days early.
  5. How Big Is Franklin Templeton's Canvas App?Jenny Johnson says the Canvas application was about two and a half billion when acquired and is now 30 billion, probably four years later.
  6. How Did Franklin Templeton Grow Putnam's Assets?Jenny Johnson says Franklin took Putnam's equity team, or the total assets there, from about 136 billion to over 220 billion by bringing a high-performing…
  7. What Is the Minimum for Franklin Templeton's Tokenized Fund?Jenny Johnson says the first natively on-chain tokenized money market fund the SEC approved can open an account for $20, while a traditional Franklin…

People

More answers like this

The other side

Related episodes

Plays from this note through the rest of the episode.

Weekly highlights

One letter a week.

The notes worth hearing, with the minute they were said.