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How Did Robert Moses Lose His Early Idealism?

Robert Caro says Robert Moses did change from a young idealist into a builder who would not listen. Before the building years, Moses was an expert in the technicalities of civil service and put his energy into reform so people would be promoted on merit instead of political pull. Early work showed real idealism: he wanted beaches and the ocean made accessible to New York.

Moses later wanted to build because he thought something should be built, no matter what anyone else said and no matter how many people stood in the way. People told him not to build the Cross Bronx Expressway before he did it. The minute the road opened, it was the world's longest traffic jam. Not thousands, but tens of thousands of people were thrown out of their homes without any relocation provisions.

A big part of the story of The Power Broker is what happens when power hardens the person who holds it against anyone who opposes him. Caro reaches for hardening, and he sets aside the word corrupting.

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Robert Caro – The master biographer reflects at 91 ·

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  1. How Does Robert Caro Get People to Talk?Robert Caro gets people to talk by refusing a no when that person is the only one who knows the story.
  2. Does America Need a Little More Robert Moses?Robert Caro says no. He does not want another Robert Moses, a builder who is ruthless and who disregards public opinion.
  3. What Showed Robert Moses Had Lost Power?Robert Caro knew Robert Moses had lost power when a long interview ended and the secretary brought no telephone calls.
  4. Did Robert Moses Realize He Was Changing?Robert Caro says Robert Moses did not realize he was changing.
  5. How Did the Great Depression Help Robert Moses Build?Robert Caro says the Great Depression played a big role in what Robert Moses was able to build.
  6. What Was the Source of Lyndon Johnson's Power?Robert Caro says the source of Lyndon Johnson's power was the power behind his persuasion.
  7. Could John Kennedy Have Passed Lyndon Johnson's Laws?Robert Caro says no.
  8. Why Does Robert Caro Reduce a Book to One Sentence?Robert Caro reduces a new book to one sentence, or at most a paragraph, before he starts writing, so he still knows what he is trying to do years later.
  9. What Never Made It Into Robert Caro's Books?A lot of what Robert Caro researched never made it into his books. He had to cut so much from The Power Broker that he still thinks should have stayed.

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