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Why Did Menlo's Anthropic Check Look Too Small?

Matt Murphy says Menlo's first Anthropic check looked too small to matter to the fund. It did not fit the venture fund or the growth fund. At a $4.5 billion entry, even a double would not be meaningful, and the usual test was that a deal does not move the needle unless it can be a 10x. He puts that 10x at $45 billion, and at the time that sounded crazy.

The reason to do it anyway was the kind of company, not a tidy fund fit. Earlier technology waves were held back by devices, slow internet, or people not trusting their data in the cloud. This one was immediately available to everyone, and it was growing faster than anything the firm had seen. His question for the partnership was how Menlo could call itself a leading AI firm without a stake in the number one or number two model company, because the model is the heart of the AI economy. He thought his partners would call him crazy. They told him to do it.

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  1. Why Is Anthropic's Headline Burn Figure Not Cash?Matt Murphy says Anthropic's headline burn figure is not cash.
  2. How Fast Is Anthropic Growing Compared With Google?Matt Murphy says Anthropic is growing on a clock that makes Google's famous run look slow.
  3. Why Did Matt Murphy Back Anthropic Before Revenue?Matt Murphy backed Anthropic before it had revenue because the partnership had decided it had to be in the category.
  4. How Did Menlo Raise an SPV With No Anthropic Financials?Matt Murphy says Menlo's first special-purpose vehicle for Anthropic nearly got ahead of the firm.
  5. Why Did Matt Murphy Join Menlo Ventures?Matt Murphy joined Menlo because the firm had already done the generational handoff that wrecks other venture firms.
  6. Why Did Menlo Go All in on AI?Matt Murphy says Menlo put all its chips on the table when the AI wave arrived. Conviction inside the whole firm was incredibly high.
  7. How Did Menlo Become a Top AI Firm?Matt Murphy says Menlo became a top AI firm by stacking pieces for years, not by spotting Anthropic on the day of the round.
  8. Why Do Venture Firms Decay?Matt Murphy says venture firms decay through poor handling of generational transition.
  9. What Is Menlo's Anthology Fund?Matt Murphy says Menlo's Anthology Fund was a way to see more of the AI map before it was obvious which companies would matter.
  10. Why Is AI Not a Repeat of 1999?Matt Murphy says this AI wave is not a repeat of 1999 because that boom hit a wall this one does not have.
  11. Should Venture Firms Slow Down?Matt Murphy is open to venture firms slowing down, and he does not know that the market needs a lot of changes right now.

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