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What Skills Are Rising in Value in the AI Era?

Josh Woodward looks for mispriced signals in the people around him, past the usual talk of taste, judgment, and vibe coding. One is an unlearning rate: how fast someone can learn a thing and then walk away from it when a product test shows the old approach is done. Another is explosive endurance, a phrase he took from a book about Roger Federer. It means people who can go very hard and still pace themselves, and the people around them, over a long stretch. Labs talks about that pace as seasons.

Collaboration is rising at the same time, even as more of the work becomes directing agents. Someone still has to work with people. The signal he watches is how fast a person can build trust, with an agent or a swarm of agents and with other people, and create the chemistry for that collaboration. As the cost of making products falls, more products get made and people team up with different people more often, so building trust matters more, not less.

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Why every company now needs to think and operate like a lab team | Josh Woodward (Google Labs, Gemini, AI Studio) ·

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

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  1. Where Do Google's Best Ideas Come From?Josh Woodward says the best ideas to come out of labs, and out of Google more broadly, arrive from a variety of places.
  2. What Is Google Labs' Almost Possible Framework?Josh Woodward says Google Labs keeps a list of what is almost possible and watches for the moment an experience crosses into something a team can build.
  3. How Do You Spot Product-market Fit Early?Josh Woodward spots early product-market fit by watching people's eyes, because the early read is way more art than science.
  4. When Should You Kill a Product Idea?Josh Woodward kills a product idea when the team already knows it is failing, usually before the leader does.
  5. Should Every Employee Become a Builder?Josh Woodward says people are overhyping the idea that everybody is a builder and that the new job is all the same.
  6. Why Does Every Company Need a Frontier Team?Josh Woodward says every company needs a set of people whose job is the frontier.
  7. How Do You Set Up an Internal Labs Team?Josh Woodward gives three tips for anyone setting up an internal labs team.
  8. Will Google Have 10,000 Products or Five?Josh Woodward keeps switching his answer in a long-running debate with Logan Kilpatrick about whether Google will have 10,000 products or five in five years.
  9. Why Does Google Labs Hand Out Miniature Rakes?Josh Woodward gives Google Labs teammates a little miniature rake and a cash reward when they do the grungy work of reclaiming TPUs.

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