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Should Every Employee Become a Builder?

Josh Woodward says people are overhyping the idea that everybody is a builder and that the new job is all the same. Product managers have been the function able to adapt to other functions faster, because the role is more horizontal. In builder pilots across Google, product managers are more accustomed to sitting in a meeting and simulating a lawyer, a business-development person, or sales. The best people can still come from any function. Strategy and ops, business development, and marketing people are showing up as builders in Labs and doing well.

People still have a specialty, like a major or a minor in college. If everybody becomes a builder, teams lose respect, appreciation, and the expertise that comes from those specialties. Even on a builder crew, the teams still ask where the specialties are.

The advice to new product managers, including APMs early in a career, is to keep vibe coding and making prototypes only in service of becoming an exceptional product manager. Do not lose that major.

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Why every company now needs to think and operate like a lab team | Josh Woodward (Google Labs, Gemini, AI Studio) ·

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

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  1. Where Do Google's Best Ideas Come From?Josh Woodward says the best ideas to come out of labs, and out of Google more broadly, arrive from a variety of places.
  2. What Is Google Labs' Almost Possible Framework?Josh Woodward says Google Labs keeps a list of what is almost possible and watches for the moment an experience crosses into something a team can build.
  3. How Do You Spot Product-market Fit Early?Josh Woodward spots early product-market fit by watching people's eyes, because the early read is way more art than science.
  4. When Should You Kill a Product Idea?Josh Woodward kills a product idea when the team already knows it is failing, usually before the leader does.
  5. What Skills Are Rising in Value in the AI Era?Josh Woodward looks for mispriced signals in the people around him, past the usual talk of taste, judgment, and vibe coding.
  6. Why Does Every Company Need a Frontier Team?Josh Woodward says every company needs a set of people whose job is the frontier.
  7. How Do You Set Up an Internal Labs Team?Josh Woodward gives three tips for anyone setting up an internal labs team.
  8. Will Google Have 10,000 Products or Five?Josh Woodward keeps switching his answer in a long-running debate with Logan Kilpatrick about whether Google will have 10,000 products or five in five years.
  9. Why Does Google Labs Hand Out Miniature Rakes?Josh Woodward gives Google Labs teammates a little miniature rake and a cash reward when they do the grungy work of reclaiming TPUs.

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