What Does Matthew Walker Say Happens When You Leave Your Everyday Behavior Behind?

Matthew Walker, author of Adventure in Everything, tells Jan Black and Laura Owens on Nobody Told Me that traditional adventure works as a teacher because it pulls people out of their everyday patterns and drops them into a new environment. Learning happens there, and where habits become obvious.

He gives a coaching client on a rock-climbing trip. Whenever the man felt stuck, he shopped for holds, touching every hold on the wall again and again, looking for a perfect one when several were good enough. Walker recognized the same pattern from the man's business. He researched problems endlessly and did not act. The climb was a small copy of the larger stall.