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Back to #885: How to Simplify Your Life — Tips from Oliver Burkeman, Chip Conley, Elizabeth Gilbert, and More, with Oliver Burkeman & Chip Conley.

How Does Chip Conley Separate Knowledge and Wisdom?

Chip Conley draws a line between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge is something you accumulate and add. Wisdom is something you distill and simplify, the difference between a plus sign, a division sign, and a square root. The Modern Elder Academy is the midlife wisdom school he built around that idea.

He also wants to hear the eulogy friends would give if he died tomorrow, while he is still living. He has stage three cancer and does not know how much longer he will live. In San Francisco, Santa Fe, and Baja, where the academy has campuses and friends, small groups share a dinner and give that eulogy for each other. At 47 he flatlined. In the space between life and death he was in a living room with a 40-foot ceiling, able to fly and talk with small birds, and they told him to slow down, because beauty and awe stay invisible unless you slow down.

Simplifying now, for him, means fusing that slowdown with what he calls holy urgency: Sundays offline, silent retreats, and the sense that he is doing the work he is supposed to do. He points to Laura Carstensen at the Stanford Center on Longevity. When people sense less time left, they focus on the present rather than the past or the future, and he finds that focus often feels happier.

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#885: How to Simplify Your Life — Tips from Oliver Burkeman, Chip Conley, Elizabeth Gilbert, and More ·

The Tim Ferriss Show

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  1. What Happened When Chip Conley Flatlined on Stage?Chip Conley says a speech in St. Louis in his late 40s forced a simpler life.
  2. What Is the Endowment Effect?Greg McKeown says the endowment effect is a brain habit that makes people value things more because they already have them.
  3. What Does a Stormtrooper Costume Have to Do With Clutter?Greg McKeown says a stormtrooper costume shows the clutter that is not sitting in a closet.
  4. Why Does Keeping a To-do List in Your Head Cost So Much?David Allen says a to-do list kept in your head costs a stack of broken agreements with yourself.
  5. Why Is It Harder to Tell the Truth to People You Love?Elizabeth Gilbert says telling the truth is not simple, and it gets harder the closer and more intimate the relationship.
  6. Why Does a Simple No Never Use the Word but?Elizabeth Gilbert says a simple no always begins with thank you, and there is never a but, because the teacher of the nine-day school feels the word but is…
  7. Why Does Simplicity Advice Often Backfire?Oliver Burkeman says simplicity advice often backfires because every system creates overhead.

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