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Is AI Really a Threat to SaaS Companies?

Luca Ferrari says AI is not a reason large SaaS companies are finished. Lower costs will hurt them on the margin, and easier writing of software does not mean they are screwed. Buying software has been reasonably cheap for a long time.

Historical software valuations were absurdly high because they did not match reasonable expectations of free cash flow over the long run. Justifying them meant betting a buyer would later pay the same multiple after growth of 50 percent, often by treating 12 percent organic growth as if it would last 15 years. Organic growth almost never rises and typically falls. AI gave people an excuse to doubt the assumptions and be more cautious, and the reset prices were broadly reasonable, within plus or minus 20 percent.

His company owns WeTransfer. Five great new graduates spending three months in a garage could probably build a product 80 percent as good, and a hundred teams have already made clones. For scale companies worth at least a billion dollars, copying the product was already negligible next to winning significant market share, even five or 10 years ago. Maybe 20 good engineers were enough, and replicating Salesforce is not rocket science. Digital products mostly win through first-mover advantage and a brand people already know.

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  2. Why Does Bending Spoons Optimize Free Cash Flow?Luca Ferrari says Bending Spoons kept optimizing the rate at which free cash flow compounds, passing up choices that would please investors and produce a…
  3. When Is Optimization a Better Bet Than Invention?Luca Ferrari says optimization is the better bet when the strategy can compound small gains, because radical invention's usual outcome is losing everything.
  4. Why Do Founders Avoid a 100x or Nothing Bet?Luca Ferrari says founders and professional managers avoid a 100x or nothing bet because they hate a median case of ending with nothing, not because they got…
  5. How Does Bending Spoons Use Debt Without Risking the Company?Luca Ferrari says debt lets Bending Spoons do more sooner, and it is smart when the expected return beats the cost of the debt and the chance of default stays…
  6. What Does Bending Spoons Build In-house?Luca Ferrari says Bending Spoons builds nearly everything required to run a digital business in-house, and the count comes to over 50 different tools.
  7. How Does Bending Spoons Use an AI Agent in Slack?Luca Ferrari says Bending Spoons uses an AI agent in Slack, which he calls the alternative spooner.
  8. How Much of Bending Spoons Code Is Written by AI?Luca Ferrari says Bending Spoons code was 0% written by AI two years ago and, last time he checked, is at 94%.

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