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Why Is Pay for Vanta's Top People Up 10x?

Christina Cacioppo says total pay for the top person at Vanta is probably ten times what that seat paid five years ago, and she thinks it should be higher. Her rule is that you never pay the top people enough. You should always try, and you will not get there. Comp bands are a joke, because the survey data is already wrong. The number that matters is whatever those people are being offered now. What she is paying for is a high-context person who knows the company, the customers, and the domain, makes reasonable decisions, fixes the bad ones, and keeps moving.

The rate is still accelerating. The brake would be investors pushing back on dilution and stock-based pay. The industry had that argument in 2022 and 2023 and is not having it now, so without it people get paid more. The competing pitch she hears is a company said to be worth $6 billion today, a Sequoia check of $10 billion next month, and a write-up to $25 billion the year after. She treats that as a talent-war offer to answer with Vanta's real numbers, not with a bigger promise.

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  1. What Does Vanta Do for Companies?Christina Cacioppo started Vanta about eight years ago to help companies build and earn trust.
  2. Why Is an 80% Growth Software Business Worth Less Than a Faster One?Christina Cacioppo says a business growing 80 percent with 80 percent margins returns more cash over a long stretch than one growing 160 percent with 30…
  3. Why Is Vanta Paying for Customers' AI Tokens?Christina Cacioppo says Vanta is eating the AI token cost and taking a lower margin.
  4. How Do You Get a Team to Adopt AI?Christina Cacioppo says the hard part of adopting AI that has paid off is simply getting people to use it, with personal use coming first.
  5. Are French Software Companies Using Chinese Models?Christina Cacioppo learned that a lot of the French software companies in Paris are using Chinese models predominantly.
  6. How Do AI Models Change Security Bug Priority?Christina Cacioppo says AI models are far more persistent than people, so issues that look low severity on their own get chained into a real finding, and…
  7. Why Does AI Help Security Chiefs Get Budget?Christina Cacioppo says security chiefs are much more likely to get budget for an enterprise risk overhaul today because the request is attached to AI.
  8. How Did Vanta Lose Its Famous Billboard?Christina Cacioppo says Vanta lost the billboard spot the company was known for because the deal was a placement order, not a multi-year contract.

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