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Why Is an 80% Growth Software Business Worth Less Than a Faster One?

Christina Cacioppo says a business growing 80 percent with 80 percent margins returns more cash over a long stretch than one growing 160 percent with 30 percent margins, yet the faster business is valued at three or four times the multiple, and the gap can reach ten times. She calls living through that cognitive dissonance.

Patrick O'Shaughnessy sets up the market side: Vanta is still growing very fast, with the high margins that looked like the best model four years ago, and nothing about that got worse, yet the multiple on a business like it is a third or a quarter of the old level. She still wants to do what customers want, which may or may not be token pricing that pushes a company toward the faster, lower-margin shape. Investors who will fund the next round often act as AI maximalists, backing the labs and robo-tractors and almost nothing in between.

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Christina Cacioppo - Building an Enduring Software Company in the Age of AI ·

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  1. What Does Vanta Do for Companies?Christina Cacioppo started Vanta about eight years ago to help companies build and earn trust.
  2. Why Is Vanta Paying for Customers' AI Tokens?Christina Cacioppo says Vanta is eating the AI token cost and taking a lower margin.
  3. How Do You Get a Team to Adopt AI?Christina Cacioppo says the hard part of adopting AI that has paid off is simply getting people to use it, with personal use coming first.
  4. Why Is Pay for Vanta's Top People Up 10x?Christina Cacioppo says total pay for the top person at Vanta is probably ten times what that seat paid five years ago, and she thinks it should be higher.
  5. Are French Software Companies Using Chinese Models?Christina Cacioppo learned that a lot of the French software companies in Paris are using Chinese models predominantly.
  6. How Do AI Models Change Security Bug Priority?Christina Cacioppo says AI models are far more persistent than people, so issues that look low severity on their own get chained into a real finding, and…
  7. Why Does AI Help Security Chiefs Get Budget?Christina Cacioppo says security chiefs are much more likely to get budget for an enterprise risk overhaul today because the request is attached to AI.
  8. How Did Vanta Lose Its Famous Billboard?Christina Cacioppo says Vanta lost the billboard spot the company was known for because the deal was a placement order, not a multi-year contract.

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