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How Do You Pitch After the Buyer Explains the Job?

Rob Snyder says that once a buyer has explained the job they are stuck on, the pitch stays small and simple. The words skip a massive product vision and a theory of the problem. The pitch restates the blocked job in a few plain words and checks whether the restatement is roughly right.

A buyer describes trying to make a website while typical point-and-click design takes too much effort. The fitting line is that they are looking for a way to make a website without the hassle of a point-and-click tool. They agree and ask how it works, which means they are pulling more detail out.

The same shape shows up in the questions on the call. A lot of people keep the framework in a doc and fill it out live. When the reason for the call stays unspoken after asking why they took the call, the next question asks whether anything in the QA process has stayed impossible with existing tools, methods, or team. The question holds every element of pull, and the buyer answers that they have been trying to automate end to end testing and cannot do it with existing tools. The follow-ups ask whether the work can wait until another time, and whether other options are already good enough. Hearing that the team can do the work themselves, and that it is good enough, stops years spent pushing a product the market does not want. He is 35 and looks 60 from the pushing.

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An 86-minute guide to finding PMF | Rob Snyder (Author, The Power of Pull) ·

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  1. What Is the Pull Framework?Rob Snyder says the pull framework describes a person who will pull a product out of a founder's hands, someone who would be weird not to buy.
  2. What Is Pull as a Buying Test?Rob Snyder treats pull as the test for whether someone will buy. The project is a job already on the to-do list, such as hiring more employees.
  3. How Does Rob Snyder Treat the Pull Framework?Rob Snyder treats the pull framework as upstream of a product idea.
  4. How Do Two Slides Test If Customers Will Buy?Rob Snyder recommends two slides for testing whether a customer will buy.
  5. Do Design Partners Ever Buy?Rob Snyder has yet to see a design partner be helpful, and the partners he has watched never buy.
  6. What Should You Ask First on a Sales Call?Rob Snyder says the first question on a sales call should be why the other person took the call.
  7. Does a Product Have to Be 10 Times Better?Rob Snyder says he does not know about the idea that a product has to be 10 times better than the existing solution for anyone to care, and that idea does not…
  8. Why Do Design Partnerships Repel Serious Buyers?Rob Snyder says a free design partnership is a negative signal to people who actually have pull and a positive signal to people who do not.
  9. What Is Goblin Mode for Founders?Rob Snyder calls goblin mode a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency move for founders.
  10. What Is a Startup Case Study Factory?Rob Snyder defines a startup case study factory as the system for repeating one customer story an infinite number of times.
  11. Why Won't a Much Better Printer Get Bought?Rob Snyder will not buy a printer that is a hundred X better for his house, because he is not blocked.

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