Peter Thiel
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- Peter Thiel: “We Need to Hit the Accelerator as Hard as Possible” on AI
- #424 Peter Thiel on How to Build a Creative Monopoly
- Stewart Alsop Iii Explores the Life in Silicon Valley Through a Conversation Between Peter Thiel and Eric Weinstein July 26, 2019
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The Builders · Mustafa Suleyman: AI Should Serve Humanity, Not Replace It
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Would Mustafa Suleyman Say AI Wants to Destroy Humanity?
Mustafa Suleyman would not say that people in the AI industry want to destroy humanity. Walter Isaacson had just quoted Peter Thiel, from an earlier episode of The Builders, calling Anthropic a cult, and asked whether Mustafa believed that.
Mustafa will not use that phrase. With the field uncertain and moving fast, more tribalism and finger-pointing is the last thing he wants. Everybody in the industry is trying to do the right thing, nobody wants to cause existential harm or destroy humanity, and he thinks people should see the best in one another.
The Peel with Turner Novak · Oren Zeev's $2.7B Solo GP Playbook
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How Did Peter Thiel Get Oren Zeev to Raise a Fund?
Peter Thiel got Oren Zeev to raise a fund by offering, in a meeting Zeev thought was only a comparison of notes, to be the limited partner and treat it as an experiment. Zeev had left Apex thinking he was finished. He had made enough money, the partnership had been a hard place to work, and he was worn out. He spent 2007 trying other things, including teaching high school math. In 2008 he came back to investing and refused the normal structure. He calls that choice post-traumatic, not a strategy. He would not join a partnership or start one.
For seven or eight years he invested alone, led every deal, wrote seven-figure checks, and did about two a year because that was all he could afford. H
The Builders · Peter Thiel: “We Need to Hit the Accelerator as Hard as Possible”…
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What Does Peter Thiel Mean by the Antichrist?
Peter Thiel means a medieval, biblical tyrant who would rule the whole world at the end of history. The tyrant would take power by talking about Armageddon and existential risk nonstop, convincing people the apocalypse was coming, not by creating an AI apocalypse. He said this about a year and a half earlier.
He puts a softly totalitarian one-world government on the same scale as the other existential risks. The Soviet Union could decay because an outside was left. If the whole world were like North Korea, no outside would be left, and that catastrophe might not be reversible. In late modernity, fear of science and technology would crystallize the politics, not a Dr. Strangelove or Edward T
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How Likely Is an AI Doomsday?
Peter Thiel does not think AI is going to kill everybody on the planet. A 5% to 10% chance sounds way too high to him, and maybe even a tiny bit above zero is too high. A bunker would not help for that kind of doomsday. People are very bad at these probabilities.
Not building is a risk too. It is dangerous not to hit the accelerator, because if China leapfrogs the United States in AI while the rivalry intensifies, China may be tempted to use it as a weapon. A thought experiment with no China, and therefore a reason to pause, is too crazy. The companies racing to build AI still have to be careful that it does not go badly wrong.
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Should the United States Pause AI?
Peter Thiel says the United States should not pause AI. He is not in the pause camp, and he says the country needs to hit the accelerator as hard as possible.
He broadly agrees with David Sacks and President Trump that competition with China means stop talking about a pause, even if AI could be an existential threat. You have to develop the AI technology in order to control it, so if China develops the same tools, staying ahead is more imperative than ever. He worries about a high-tech totalitarianism being tried in China. It is not as violent as Stalin, Mao, or Hitler, because you do not need to kill as many people, but it knows more about you than you know about yourself, and he does not
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Will AI Ever Be Conscious?
Peter Thiel does not think AI is conscious, and he does not think it ever will be. He treats the question about AI as a question about what it means to be a human being. Humans differ because they experience the world consciously.
Chomsky, the MIT linguist, treated language as the core human ability, and that picture held until 2022. The line has moved to consciousness and the hard problem of consciousness. Thiel calls himself probably vaguely Cartesian. A person sees a beautiful sunset in a human way and is self-aware of that. With no humans in the world, a computer would not experience the sunset the same way, and that would be a very big loss. He does not know whether conscious experienc
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Is Evil Better Than Incompetence?
Peter Thiel ranks good above evil, and evil above incompetence. Bad, in this ranking, means incompetent, and it does matter that the people building these companies avoid being evil.
Appearing not to be evil can be a fake PR stunt. Bill Gates is into virtue signaling and Elon Musk is into vice signaling, and vice signaling may be more honest, even the mark of a better person. A Ferrari is an evil car in the example because it does not get many miles to the gallon. A Trabi that does not work is worse than a golf cart because it breaks down all the time, which makes it a bad car. Better to be good than evil. When a bland bureaucrat stands for bad, the bureaucrat is incompetent, while the pers
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Are the People Building AI Good?
Peter Thiel scores the people building AI companies as far more good than bad across the board. Endless amounts of time have gone into their motives, and one dimension stays hard to figure out but is probably quite important.
The people doing the work very easily get demonized and scapegoated. Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and Zuckerberg are among the names he picks. Even in the case of AI, who is doing the work is a really important question.
Biography turns on the same point. It is about who those individuals are, not an idiosyncratic story with nothing to do with the companies they built or the world they are shaping.
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Is Survival the Only Goal for Humanity?
Peter Thiel says survival cannot be the only goal for humanity. It is an extremely important goal, and he wants humanity both to survive and to flourish.
Humanity can survive if nothing changes, though things might go very haywire without growth. Silicon Valley is quite bad at the meaning of technology, and it may not be up to Silicon Valley to articulate a single meaning. Part of progress has to avoid existential risks, and technology can be a way to avoid them. Nuclear power is a carbon neutral technology to lean into so humanity can survive in a more carbon neutral way.
The long pause came from hearing a Luddite question underneath: why is it not good enough for things to continue as th
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Why Does Peter Thiel Talk About the Antichrist?
Peter Thiel talks about the Antichrist because the religious wording keeps one world government from winning without any questions. The phrase also got people's attention. There are probably ways to describe the same ideas in philosophical or more neutral, less religious language.
After 1945, the Federation of Atomic Scientists put out a short film, One World or None, showing a nuclear bomb blowing up the world. The political formulation is one world or none. Antichrist or Armageddon is a very similar question: one world authority versus Armageddon. One world or none, without asking any questions, signs people straight up for one world government. It looks clearly better, so there is no deb
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Will AI Make the Median Person Better Off?
Peter Thiel expects AI to leave the median person better off, with the qualifier that nobody really knows and nobody can be certain. In aggregate, on a macroeconomic level, AI will increase productivity a lot and act as a fairly disinflationary force in the economy. The better-off outcome holds unless a few companies capture the gains incredibly narrowly.
The Luddites in the 19th century worried that machines would replace people. In practice, some industries, sometimes even big industries, saw a lot of disruption, and people were freed to do more productive work. The same pattern is still his intuition with AI.
Walter Isaacson asks whether four or five companies are about to capture AI. F
The Tim Ferriss Show · #887: Q&A with Tim — The 4-Hour Workweek in a World of AI…
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What Does Investing 10 Times More in Health and Relationships Look Like?
Tim Ferriss borrows a heuristic from Ramit Sethi and is trying to invest 10 times more in health and 10 times more in relationships. Sethi asks people what it would look like to invest 10 times more in one or two areas that matter most. Over-investing in health and relationships crowds out much of a no-longer-optimized list.
Sethi is better known as a finance guru and has a podcast where he interviews couples about money problems. The line is a paraphrase, because the exact wording is hard to remember. Ultra frugality and foregoing lattes are not the focus. Even without an immediate answer, the question forces a different look at life, like a Peter Thiel question. Health and relationships a
Founders · #424 Peter Thiel on How to Build a Creative Monopoly
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What Secret Should a Startup Be Built on?
David Senra, reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, says a startup should be built on a secret: something important and unknown, hard to do but doable. Every famous idea was once unknown. A conventional truth can matter and still give no edge, because it is not a secret. Ask what valuable company nobody is building. Every correct answer is a secret. If many secrets remain, many world-changing companies are still unstarted.
People skip secrets because they are scared of being wrong. A secret has not been vetted by the mainstream. If the goal is never to make a mistake, do not look for secrets. Senra quotes the founder of Ikea: making mistakes is the privilege of the active, and the only way
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Why Does Peter Thiel Say Competition Is for Losers?
David Senra, reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, says competition is for losers because a startup should avoid competition and aim to be the last mover, not the first. Moving first is a tactic, not a goal. What matters is generating cash flows in the future. Being first does no good if someone else comes along and unseats you. It is much better to be the last mover: make the last great development in a specific market and enjoy years or even decades of monopoly profits.
Thiel compares that choice to chess. To succeed, study the endgame before everything else. The same passage says a definitive person determines the one best thing to do and then does it, and strives to be a monopoly of on
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What Happened When Steve Jobs Returned to Apple?
David Senra reads Michael Moritz, then Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, on Steve Jobs returning to Apple. Jobs founded Apple twice, and the second time he was alone. A founder had not come back after being pushed out and engineered a turnaround as complete as Apple's. Turnarounds are hard in any business, and doubly hard in a technology company.
In 1985 Apple's board effectively kicked Jobs out. The eccentricity had backfired: a college dropout who walked around barefoot, refused to shower, and could act charismatic or crazy. Hired as interim CEO in 1997, twelve years later, he arrived after credentialed executives had steered the company nearly to bankruptcy. He introduced the iPod in 2001,
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Why Can Sales and Distribution Create a Monopoly?
David Senra, reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, says superior sales and distribution by itself can create a monopoly, even with no product differentiation. The converse is not true. Invent something new without an effective way to sell it and the result is a bad business, no matter how good the product. Distribution is part of the design of the product. Customers will not come just because it was built.
Most people underrate sales, and Silicon Valley underrates it more than most. The work is hidden on purpose. People who sell advertising are called account executives. People who sell customers work in business development. People who sell companies are investment bankers. People who sel
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What Is a Definitive Optimist?
David Senra, reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, says a definitive optimist believes the future will be better than the present if that person plans and works to make it better. Thiel thought America was like that for several decades. Even the Great Depression failed to impede relentless progress in the United States, which he calls home to the world's most far-seeing definitive optimists.
The examples he gives, as Senra reads them, are buildings and programs that went up on a plan. The Empire State Building was started in 1929 and finished in 1931. The Golden Gate Bridge was started in 1933 and completed in 1937. The Manhattan Project was started in 1941 and had produced the world's fir
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Why Should a Startup Start in a Tiny Market?
David Senra, reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, says every startup should start with a very small market because creative monopolies start excessively small and then monopolize. Every startup is small at the start, and every monopoly dominates a large share of its market. Always err on the side of starting too small. If the first market looks too big, it almost certainly is.
Small still has to be a real sale. Apple's first sale was 50 computers for $25,000 to a shop Senra believes was in Palo Alto, and Steve Jobs walked in barefoot. The perfect target is a small group of particular people, concentrated together and served by few or no competitors. Once a company dominates a niche, it ex
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Why Do Entrepreneurs Chase Growth Over Durability?
David Senra says entrepreneurs chase growth over durability because growth is easy to measure and durability is not. Reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, he gives Thiel's test of a great business: the ability to generate cash flows in the future. The value of a business today is the sum of all the money it will make in the future. Most of a tech company's value comes at least 10 to 15 years out. Senra's examples are Apple, a multi-trillion dollar company founded in 1976, 50 years earlier, and NVIDIA, where the value arrived 25 to 30 years in rather than 10 to 15. He had just been reading that Jensen has been running NVIDIA for 33 years.
Charlie Munger thought durability was a first-rate v
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What Is a Creative Monopoly?
David Senra, reading Peter Thiel and Blake Masters, says a creative monopoly is a company so good at what it does that no other firm can offer a close substitute. Lasting value comes from refusing to build an undifferentiated commodity business.
Four reversed rules point there. It is better to risk boldness than triviality. A bad plan is better than no plan. Competitive markets destroy profits, so the aim is a creative monopoly. Sales matters just as much as the product. The move is to think for yourself and ask what valuable company nobody is building. Edwin Land supplies the same test: do not do anything somebody else can do. Creative monopolists add entirely new categories of abundance.