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Why Did K.C. Irving Keep Cutting Timber He Could Not Sell?

Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving kept cutting timber through the Depression and stopped selling it, while competitors laid people off and waited.

In June 1933 his father, J.D., died. J.D. had never made peace with Irving leaving the family business, so Irving came back and bought it, including the old sawmill and its 7,000 acres of timberland. Spruce budworms were still eating the forest, and lumber prices were so low that every sale was a loss. The obvious move was to stop cutting and wait. Irving kept the crews cutting and stopped selling. For six straight years they cut timber, and in only three of those years did he sell any of the wood. The rest piled up.

Piles of timber cost money, and the bank lost its nerve. It called a loan said to be close to $2 million, due immediately, an order from the head office in Toronto rather than from his local banker. Irving believed for the rest of his life that competitors had pushed for the call, hoping to catch him with his money tied up in unsold lumber. He had never missed a payment. Another lender took the bet, the called loan was paid in full, and he kept cutting. In 1939 prices rose. He was sitting on years of inventory cut when costs were low, and the lumber that had nearly buried him was worth a fortune.

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K.C. Irving: Competing with Giants ·

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

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  1. How Did K.C. Irving Handle a Missing Oil Delivery?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving handled a missing oil delivery by answering the call himself and phoning back until the oil was in the house.
  2. How Did K.C. Irving Get Gasoline When Imperial Oil Cut Him Off?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving went looking for his own gasoline after Imperial Oil cut him off and expected him to stick to selling cars.
  3. Why Did K.C. Irving Refuse a Loan His Father Would Guarantee?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving refused a line of credit unless it stood in his own name, even though his father would have guaranteed the loan.
  4. Why Did K.C. Irving Start Irving Oil?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  5. Why Did K.C. Irving Keep Expanding During the Great Depression?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving kept expanding through the Great Depression because fewer people were trying to grow and there was less competition.
  6. Why Did K.C. Irving Buy a Ship When the Railway Raised His Rates?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving bought his own tanker after Canadian National Railway raised the rates on his oil and refused to treat him like Imperial Oil.
  7. How Did K.C. Irving's Veneer Plant Help Build the Mosquito Bomber?Shane Parrish says the first part of K.C. Irving's business transformed by the war was Canada Veneers, a small veneer company he had purchased the year before.
  8. Why Did K.C. Irving Count the Trees Before Buying a Forest?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving counted the trees himself because he would not buy a defunct railway's forest until his own count matched the inspectors.
  9. How Much Was K.C. Irving Worth in 1948?Shane Parrish says Canadian Business put K.C. Irving on its cover in February 1948 and guessed his fortune at about $100 million. By 1948, K.C.
  10. What Did Harrison McCain Learn From K.C. Irving?Shane Parrish says Harrison McCain reduced what he learned from K.C. Irving to one sentence: don't ever be satisfied.
  11. Why Did K.C. Irving Start Planting Spruce at 58?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  12. Why Did K.C. Irving Turn Down British Petroleum's Refinery Deal?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving walked away from British Petroleum because it wanted the right to buy Irving Oil when he retired or died.
  13. Why Did New Brunswick Want More Than One K.C. Irving?Shane Parrish says people called K.C.
  14. Did K.C. Irving Take Dividends From His Newspapers?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  15. Why Did K.C. Irving Say It Was Too Expensive to Die in Canada?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  16. Why Was K.C. Irving's Newspaper Ownership Not a Crime?Shane Parrish says a monopoly was not automatically a crime. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled the government had to prove that K.C.
  17. How Many Trees Did K.C. Irving Plant?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving's spruce program passed one billion trees on land experts said would not grow them. In 1957, 58-year-old K.C.

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