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Why Did K.C. Irving Refuse a Loan His Father Would Guarantee?

Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving refused a line of credit unless it stood in his own name, even though his father would have guaranteed the loan.

He arrived in St. John with about $5,000 in cash and five years of borrowing without a missed payment. Ford wanted an aggressive salesman, and the franchise cost him nothing. When he asked a bank for credit, it said yes on one condition: his father had to guarantee it. Irving knew his father would have signed, and he refused anyway. The manager of a rival bank, an old family friend, then walked into the showroom offended that Irving had come to St. John and not done business with him. Irving said he would be happy to, on one condition. His father's name stayed off the loan. By the next morning he was with the bank's regional supervisor, and he got the credit on his own signature.

Years later he described banking in one line. He always borrowed a lot of money, he said, and he did not really know of a bad bank.

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K.C. Irving: Competing with Giants ·

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

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  2. How Did K.C. Irving Get Gasoline When Imperial Oil Cut Him Off?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving went looking for his own gasoline after Imperial Oil cut him off and expected him to stick to selling cars.
  3. Why Did K.C. Irving Start Irving Oil?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  4. Why Did K.C. Irving Keep Expanding During the Great Depression?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving kept expanding through the Great Depression because fewer people were trying to grow and there was less competition.
  5. Why Did K.C. Irving Buy a Ship When the Railway Raised His Rates?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving bought his own tanker after Canadian National Railway raised the rates on his oil and refused to treat him like Imperial Oil.
  6. Why Did K.C. Irving Keep Cutting Timber He Could Not Sell?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving kept cutting timber through the Depression and stopped selling it, while competitors laid people off and waited.
  7. How Did K.C. Irving's Veneer Plant Help Build the Mosquito Bomber?Shane Parrish says the first part of K.C. Irving's business transformed by the war was Canada Veneers, a small veneer company he had purchased the year before.
  8. Why Did K.C. Irving Count the Trees Before Buying a Forest?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving counted the trees himself because he would not buy a defunct railway's forest until his own count matched the inspectors.
  9. How Much Was K.C. Irving Worth in 1948?Shane Parrish says Canadian Business put K.C. Irving on its cover in February 1948 and guessed his fortune at about $100 million. By 1948, K.C.
  10. What Did Harrison McCain Learn From K.C. Irving?Shane Parrish says Harrison McCain reduced what he learned from K.C. Irving to one sentence: don't ever be satisfied.
  11. Why Did K.C. Irving Start Planting Spruce at 58?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  12. Why Did K.C. Irving Turn Down British Petroleum's Refinery Deal?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving walked away from British Petroleum because it wanted the right to buy Irving Oil when he retired or died.
  13. Why Did New Brunswick Want More Than One K.C. Irving?Shane Parrish says people called K.C.
  14. Did K.C. Irving Take Dividends From His Newspapers?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  15. Why Did K.C. Irving Say It Was Too Expensive to Die in Canada?Shane Parrish says K.C.
  16. Why Was K.C. Irving's Newspaper Ownership Not a Crime?Shane Parrish says a monopoly was not automatically a crime. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled the government had to prove that K.C.
  17. How Many Trees Did K.C. Irving Plant?Shane Parrish says K.C. Irving's spruce program passed one billion trees on land experts said would not grow them. In 1957, 58-year-old K.C.

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